MarkWVU02

As much as I hate the Spike Lee "25th Hour" with Edward Norton is one hell of a movie.

He had credibility?

The only thing I see with this is they said he was CCWing. How would Martin even know he had a gun unless Zimmerman had already shown it. Martin is in a strange neighborhood to him, some guy is following him, you never know he could've feared for his life. The Daily News was amazingly biased for Martin today. It's amazing how this case has gotten so polarized. There are very few in the middle.

I like the idea. No one wins tonight I'm in.

I win it and everyone on this forum will get a really sweet gun as a present haha.

He just made one white family very rich with that tweet. He's an @ss

Good article. Thanks for posting. Lots of bias on both sides...somewhere in the middle is the truth.

It's also tax return season too. Let's face it we're all out there spreading the word on gun ownership. Despite our arguments we're all here for the same reason. as much as it sucks trying to find things at least the good new is gun ownership is up. I've converted a few people and so have many of you. They all add up and eventually we may seem some changes. Keep it up gentleman!

Anyone with an extra mag or two and mag holders for a Springfield XD9? I have one mag holder and holster (XD gear came with gun...didn't want to drop a ton of cash until I knew this was something I really wanted to do). My buddy is supposed to lend me his mag holder and mags but in case we don't meet up it would be good having someone there with extras. Looking forward to this. Hopefully the forecast improves. Have to find some decent pants to wear. Those rivets on jeans are dangerous to my guns finish.

Another question for LEOs. Wouldn't police photograph Zimmerman's injuries for evidence?

You're right I'm sorry. The lead investigator wanted to press charges. The State's attorney didn't want to go through with it. I still find it strange that the son of a judge is just let go when there are so many open ends. I mean that kind of stuff happens in Jersey all the time but beautiful sunny Florida?

Yeah that's what I was thinking.

I don't think it's the "libs" that try to divide us instead I think it's the extreme rich and privileged (politicians and the sort) who try to divide the lower and middle classes. If we're kept at war with each other we'll never see the true enemy and rise up. There's an interesting book called "The Rich Get Richer, The Poor Get Prison" check it out sometime...it was recommended to me by an FBI agent who taught a criminology class at WVU and it really made me look at things quite differently. We'll all hung up on these terms liberal and conservative and republican and democrat yet they're the ones laughing all the way to the bank. The true color divide isn't black or white...it's green.

I always heard Found On Road Dead

Get your filthy paws off me you damn dirty ape!

Now I'm not to sure about that. Maybe our LEO members could chime in. Aren't people sometimes handcuffed that aren't under arrest just for the officers safety until everything is figured out?

"A special prosecutor said she hoped to decide without a grand jury whether to arrest Zimmerman. "I always lean towards moving forward without needing the grand jury in a case like this," Angela Corey told The Miami Herald. "I foresee us being able to make a decision and move on it on our own." Corey, a state attorney in Jacksonville, Fla., was named special prosecutor in charge of the case by Florida Gov. Rick Scott last week as a result of growing protests and complaints by civil rights leaders and others that local authorities had botched the investigation"

Also I've never said in any of my posts whether either was innocent or guilty. I said there is a lot of doubt and it should be decided by a jury instead of a police department that Zimmerman has connections with. You guys seem so quick to jump down my throat that I believe you're not reading my posts carefully. I really don't know what happened but to let Zimmerman go when there is so much doubt doesn't seem right to me.

Actually a grand jury doesn't have to make the decision in Florida. I just read up on it last night. It goes to the head prosecutor. He or she can turn it down, decide for trial, or pass it along to a grand jury. I thought the same thing but apparently it's not the case.

Oh I definitely agree with that but if we can't say he's 100% innocent or 100% guilty shouldn't it be decided in a court of law like our constitution says? By letting the police decide to let Zimmeman go aren't we then proving Martin guilty? Shouldn't Martin have the same rules applied to him that he's innocent until proven guilty in a court of law? See where I'm going here? I'm not saying either is innocent or guilty but we're assuming innocence and guilt when the facts just aren't there. In that case wouldn't a trial be warranted?

I'm not arguing or pissing on anyone just trying to cast doubt to Zimmerman's innocence. That's how a debate works. I've learned a lot from this thread. My point with the video is the police report dates Zimmerman was bleeding from his nose and back of his head. He had several gashes on the back of his head one of which "probably required stitches". It also says he had grass stains on his back. The video isn't clear but his clothes look neat, not like a guy that just fought for his life. A nose bleeds like crazy. No blood on the shirt. Paramedics treated him at the scene, they didn't bandage that huge gash on the back of his head that should have gotten stitches? Things just don't seem to add up. I'm not placing guilt or innocence on either party just saying there isn't enough evidence to suggest Zimmerman is definitely innocent.

He's brought into the station in cuffs which would indicate he was initially arrested. I'm not saying he's guilty but come on you can't honestly believe without a reasonable doubt that this man is 100% innocent?

Stitches in the back of his head? A swollen nose? Come on man I can't see any of that. No bloods stains. No grass stains. His shirt and jacket are all neat. He seems calm and composed. Doesn't look like a guy that just fought for his life.

The problem is apparently there was enough to charge him with according to the lead investigator.

You keep claiming Zimmemann was attacked and there is no concrete evidence. Here's a link with video of Zimmerman shortly after being brought to the station. He doesn't look beat nearly to death I can't see a scratch or any blood. His nose doesn't look broken to me. http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-zimmerman-video-20120329,0,7952997.story If he was beaten half to death as some of you claim why didn't he check into an emergency room after being questioned. If your head was being "bashed" against the ground repeatedly don't you think you'd worry about a possible concussion. It just doesn't add up to me and apparently many other people in this country. I don't think there's enough evidence not to at least go before a grand jury. Why would the lead investigator think so. We're not talking about the first time this guy's been in police custody and got off. The whole he got attacked story just sounded formulated to me from day one. Of course that's what you'd say if you shot somebody. There have been threads on here where it's been said that you always claim you had no further choice then to shoot. You all make it sound like a closed case. I really don't think it is.