MarkWVU02

I wonder if there's a one tank a month limit on those in new jersey

It says on the box "only for use on zombies". I'd imagine a prosecutor would use that against you of you ever had to use the ammo in a SD situation.

I bought a box at the bullet hole for shits and giggles. Good convo piece on the shelf. Total gimmick but pretty funny. Too bad it started a trend that is now getting out of control.

After being at the bullet hole a few dozen times it shocks me this hasn't happened sooner. Seriously there are some real yahoos that go there. Can't wait for my tax return so I can get a membership at cherry ridge.

Can't wait to shoot that thing Cliff...haha

Hey at least we have Ted Nugent on our side!

+1 this is what I did. BCG has run flawless

It sounds like you're doing a good job Dad. My point in this was to take a calm approach. I'm sure if you explain your side she'll see it and may agree with you. Who knows if the conversation goes well you may even ask to take them to the range one day and show them the sport. I used to be anti-gun because I never had exposure to it. When I went to college I had a friend that took the time to show me, and take me shooting, and it totally changed my views. Some people just don't have the experience and need to see the real side of gun ownership. I can relate with your son. I talked way too much because I was always the first finished and because of this got in trouble a lot. Explain to him why the teacher felt that way and your feelings on the matter and I'm sure he'll be just fine. Use this as an educational experience.

Try brushing up on your reading skills. She wrote "I heard he said" meaning someone else told her. She states she wasn't with them at lunch so the lunch teacher probably told her hence the use of the phrase "I heard he said". She never states she heard him so she didn't say I heard him say. Nice try though.

Also it shows how petty people are that they're busting her handwriting. She wrote the note at the end of the day probably when she's trying to get them their homework, packed up, and on their way. If she does a notebook like that for every student in her class (avg class size 26 let's say) then imagine how fast she has to write to get them all done. It's not like she's sitting around all day she does have to teach a class.

I was going to leave this thread alone because I didn't want to sit and type out a long response but I guess I should answer you. Would my conscience be cleared? Hell no. Would I at least know I tried something? Hell yeah it's better than sitting there doing nothing about it. I've followed this thread closely and don't see how you find some of the responses funny but hey that's you not me. I have to deal with this everyday and you just have there and judge me for what I do. Pointing a finger and saying gun to a kid has no place in a school anymore in light of how many school shootings there are. Somebody brought up a good point you don't say bomb on a plane and there are far fewer plane bombings than school shootings. The teacher didn't make a big deal about it she sent a quick note in which looks to be a notebook she updates the parents with. I think she did a great job and just shows she's involved and pays attention to what happens in her classroom. All I said was don't make a big deal out of it and schedule a meeting and I get attacked like I'm violating people's second amending rights. News flash I'm a big supporter of gun rights. I'm also a teacher and am forced to take every situation seriously, which this teacher did by sending the note home. Administration wasn't involved so what's really the big deal? It appears by the note cut off at the top that she updates the parents on a fairly regular basis. We keep these parent logs to send home too, but usually only do it for the kids who are struggling or have a behavior problem. I don't know the OP, his kid, or the school so I don't know if she does it for every child or just the ones who need it. In my case if I have a notebook like this it usually means there have been many issues leading up to this. Once again it may be very different for the OP and his kids school. For those who blame the teachers for a lack of science and social studies should really start blaming their precious republicans. It was them who passed the NCLB act that basically crippled schools. Standardized tests have been proven time and time again to be a huge failure. The sad part is special education kids have to take those tests and it counts on the schools average. I have a student that should be in 3rd grade but is functioning at a pre-k level. What is a child like that going to do for the average? If we fail our budget gets cut. Imagine that...your school is struggling so they take money away from it. The NCLB legislation has increased the cost to educate children, led to social promotion (which might be how the poor reader from a few posts ago ended up where he is), and forced schools to abandon old school subjects to focus on math and reading for the test (which I find a disgrace). Do you think we like this? Hell no I miss teaching history but I have to do what I'm told to do. For all the NJEA haters out there. Do you feel the same way about the PBA or IBEW. What about firemen's unions or unions for factory workers. Name one union that doesn't get involved in politics. The NJEA is there to protect our wages and our jobs which is important because many people have no idea how little teachers really make. Tenure does not guarantee you a job and say you can't get fired. It states they have to give you due process to fire you after 3 years teaching. It's extremely valuable to many because a vindictive parent can't get you fired for failing his kid(I've seen it). You don't have to worry about an administrator that's out to get you, or a supervisor who doesn't agree with you (seen and dealt with this myself). Believe me I've seen tenured teachers fired before. But I've also seen good teachers let go on their 3rd year so they could save money next year by hiring someone on a lower pay scale. Unions are there to protect their workers why should ours be any different. Why shouldn't they get involved in politics like the other unions? We don't have a right to try to steer education in the right direction? Believe it or not most teachers care about your kids just as much as you do. Most want to see them succeed and go on to be more successful than them. New Jersey schools score in the top 5 in almost every educational category in the nation. When you look at how many students are impoverished those number are even more astounding. Kids in NJ get some of the best education in the country. You all need to realize we don't pick the curriculum. We don't pick the core standards. We just go to work and do the best we can with what we're given. I think Jersey's numbers speak for themselves. In the end this is a job, but unlike many jobs you really need to care about the kids and love what you do. Are there bad teachers out there? Sure just like there are bad cops and bad people in pretty much every job but when you look at the bigger picture NJ is well ahead of most of the nation.

Wow man you have no idea. Keep believing the Christie hype with the rest of the sheeple. Like I said spend a day in my shoes.

It's illegal to bring a gun on school grounds so it's okay to break the law? This kid can get up early enough to hunt but can't stop home to drop off the gun? Come on man you sound ridiculous. Also class sizes are larger today than they were 30 years ago so keep blowing that smoke up people's @sses.

I like it. May need to order one myself

Wow, thank god you're not a teacher. Obviously you know nothing about education. Education today is about individualized education and teaching to students strengths and not the best interest of the collective as you have stated. Until you spend a day in the classroom I suggest you don't pass judgement on the job just as I don't pass judgement on anyone else's job I haven't done.

What if a kid brought a gun to school and killed a bunch of kids including your child. Later you find out the teacher overheard the shooter talking about a gun a day earlier and did nothing. How would you feel? In a school we have to treat every situation in a serious matter. The teacher sent a note home and called the word gun a violent word (which I don't agree with). A simple meeting with the teacher to explain your position will go a lot further than a lot of the suggestions on here.

Actually it's not okay for them to do any of those things and any of that would get either a note home or a trip to the office. Then again my students learn quickly what is and isn't appropriate in a school. I've had lessons and talked about guns in history. It's all about the context and the use of the word, and none of us know exactly how the word was used. As far as "pass me a knife" goes you bet that would land them in trouble (our cafeteria doesn't give the kids knives). And for all you dictionary guys out there the word gun can be used as a verb... gun (down) - To shoot someone or something, usually with a firearm gunning - To seek to attack someone; to take aim at someone. I never said gun was a violent word just said I think the way the teacher handled it was okay. She sent a note home I know it's the end of the world. I'm sure sending back a bullet hole riddled rant about gun rights will send the right message. It'll prove dad has a short temper and access to firearms. Like we needed any more bad stereotypes.

That's why I said write a note and schedule a meeting. Discuss your points calmly and with respect and I'm sure she'll see your side. I said before an involved parent is a good parent and the teacher may have no experience with guns. No need to attack her.

I'm a teacher and would like to offer some insight on the situation. A teacher overheard your son say "gun" to a classmate. She spoke to him about how the word could be construed as violent (as in if he was saying he had or was bringing a gun to school...which he obviously wasn't). She sent you a note explaining things and didn't make a big deal about it. She had you sign the note (which usually is standard teaching practice for sending home notes). I think she handled the situation just fine. A nice note back to the teacher explaining things will probably set her mind at ease about things. Explain things calmy or even offer to meet face to face and explains talk about it...us teachers really respect involved parents. Would a pissed off rant really help the situation at all? What if another student was talking about a gun, a teacher overheard it and did nothing. Then the kid shoots the place up. Would you be saying kudos to the teacher that didn't take the minute to send that parent a note? Unfortunately we live in violent times and as a teacher I take everything seriously. I've had discussions with kids and parents about the seriousness of violence in the school (I have dealt with similar situations and I'm a proud gun owner). We all need to remember things are a lot different then when we were kids...no matter how old you are. My advice...schedule a meeting. Talk to her about the situation and explain how your son knows firearms and more importantly firearms safety. A lot of people just don't have exposure to firearms so a conversation with you may be a good thing. Who knows you may get to teach the teacher how to shoot us she's receptive enough. Good luck in what you choose.

Enjoy the vacation. Where you headed? We'll try to plan something out when you're finished building. I got an AR, XD9, and 590A1 to have some fun with.

I hear it man. I won't get into the healthcare debate because I can see both sides of the argument. One side I'm sick of handing out entitlement programs but on the other my premiums are high because we're already paying for the uninsured. Don't want to make a debate out of it I just can see pros and cons to both sides of the issue. I do believe all children should get healthcare...you don't choose the family you're born into...it sucks when a child can't get healthcare because their parents are deadbeats.

Haha surprising right? I must say I'm getting sick of everything on this forum going back to Obama. It seems like all the problems of this world can be linked to Obama according to some of the members here. Christie does something F'd up...blame Obama. My dog is constipated...blame Obama. My farts smell like rotten cabbage...blame Obama. This post had nothing to do with Obama yet someone had to make it about him. Just getting old. Disclaimer...I'm not an Obama fan. I pledge 0 allegiance to either of our corrupt parties. I just think its time to see the real enemies...all the rich privileged politicians.

And Bush and the Congressional Republicans were any better? Let's stop trying to blame Obama and the Democrats for everything when it's quite easy to see neither party cares about the greater interests of its citizens.

You are correct sir.

Here's a link to a thread of mine with pics of my AR http://njgunforums.com/forum/index.php?/topic/29556-first-day-at-the-range-with-the-ar/page__pid__390601#entry390601 (doing this from my phone so actually linking is tough) I've since removed the carry handle and added a Magpul MBUS and Primary Arms micro dot. I'll post a pic of it's current configuration when I get home. I also ordered a Magpul ASAP and AFG2 for it (what can I say I love Magpul products). You're close to me. We'll have to go shooting when you finish it up. I'm joining Cherry Ridge when I get my tax return so maybe we can shoot up there for some distance.