diamondd817

Do you even lift bro?

DPMS makes a NJ compliant AP4. The Oracle is not NJ compliant from the factory, but can be made compliant easily.

Reminds me of another place that had high prices and transfer fees. Their out of business now. They were somewhere in Garfield.

Sounds like you have a interest in the place.

I guess it's one of those places that don't like customers.

Aholes....

Well, again we are talking about 1 every 15-30yrs vs at least 2 suicides each for Sure Shot, RtSp, And GFH in the last 3yrs.

That was definitely an anomaly. Was that 1 in 30yrs? How many suicides in the last 3 yrs at Sure Shot, RTSP, and GFH? All rental ranges. How many suicides I the last 3 yrs at Paterson Gunsmithing, Cherry Ridge, or any other non rental ranges? I get that it's a big revenue generator, but IT IS the reason for the high frequency of suicides.

Simple, stop renting guns. Ever hear of a suicide at Bullet Hole or Paterson Gunsmithing? Both been around over 30yrs.

Since inception. What about the last 20 yrs, from 1995-2015?

Since all the Italians moved out.

Inheritance and moving here from another State with legally owned guns are 2 ways. You are legally allowed to purchase handgun ammo with a copy of your P2P without an FID. FID card not legally required as ID when using a P2P to purchase a handgun, only 1 other form of ID. From the NJSP website: "A Permit to Purchase a Handgun must be completed on each handgun transferred in this state. It is the responsibility of the seller of the handgun to ascertain that the buyer has a valid Permit to Purchase a Handgun and one additional form of identification." And am I correct, that you don't need an FID card to obtain a handgun permit to purchase?

Aaaand California hoses gun owners again just before Independence Day... Good.

Really no need to start yelling, as this was a sincere question. I was clear on the fact that FID card to leave guns at store was store policy, but I was not clear on whether you needed your FID to pick up your legally owned guns was in fact, policy or law. I read the statues and didn't see it, but figured I could have missed it somewhere, I thought I would ask. So, no problem, you win. That being said, I completely disagree with the store policy as it is not a legal requirement. And honestly, if I did have my FID present and you told me I would need my FID card to pick up my legally owned guns or you will hold them hostage, I would not have left them anyway. What if I leave my guns and walk outside and lose my FID card? I cant get my guns back for 30, maybe 60, maybe 90 days (depending on said PD)? Wow, no thanks. I know the chances of losing my card are very slim, but it could happen. And at that point, I/we will just be assumed to be a prohibited persons, at least until a replacement card shows up? Store policy should be to let customers know that, if your dog happens to eat your kids homework and your FID card at the same time, you will not be getting your legally owned firearms back from us even though there is no law against it. I consider myself a fairly good customer of RTSP. Between me and my wife we bought at least a dozen handguns, plus a transfer or 2. I brought a friend who I introduced to shooting there to buy his 2 handguns and an AR. I buy range time there every time I want to shoot indoors. Im not a member because I do a lot of outdoor shooting and the membership wouldn't pay off for me. I've had work done on guns by Tom before (but I don't ever remember showing an FID card for it). I had nothing but positive experiences there. I always recommend the place to people looking to buy. Hell, I even defended RTSP in another thread that someone posted about going there to buy a gun but was ignored. But...as stated in my previous post, I really have no patience left for gun stores that add BS policies on top of already ridiculous NJ gun laws. Therefore, I will take my business elsewhere. Thanks, D

Well, I guess they are more "different" than even NJ.

Is having an FID card to pick up your already owned firearms law or store policy? I can't seem to find the statue that states this. Even in your painted scenario where I was to become some prohibited person, it would not be the stores responsiblity to confiscate my guns, I believe that would be an issue for the State Police to deal with. What about people who don't have an FID card that inherited firearms? Perfectly legal in NJ. But I guess they could never have them worked on? And for what's its worth, I could have shipped my pistols to Glock on their dime, they would have updated them, then shipped them right back to my front door, I wouldn't have to show my FID card to anyone, would never had to leave my house, and it would all be perfectly legal. But I do prefer to keep my business local.

I can do all my own gunsmithing on my Glocks. The problem here is that Glock will only ship the new connectors to a Glock armorer and to be installed by said armorer as of right now. Serial numbers of pistols have to be called into Glock by the armorer before they will ship them. FYI, these are for the new "improved" 33564 connectors for the Glock 42 & Glock 43 (they use the same connector).

I know. I had work done by you/old school on my gen4 Glocks. I also bought a Remy 597 when I was there that day. The work needed is for the newly released connectors for my Glock 42 & 43. I bought the 42 & 43 from RTSP and just figured it would be easier to let them replace the connectors. Yes, my FID number is on my PP. Which brings me to another point. I bought these 2 pistols there, along with about another 10 or so pistols. They have all my information in their files and database. But them/her looking up my info didn't seem like option.

I did have copies of my PP on me for the pistols I wanted to drop off. That never came up. Shouldn't that be an option too? FID or DL or PP?

And what happens if you don't have an FID card? No repair work allowed? Please elaborate. Will a NJ driver license suffice?

RTSP. I did ask the girl at the counter why, but she just kept saying she had to log it in to their book. I was in a rush and didn't have the time to get into it. Anyway, it wasted my time and pissed me off enough that I won't step a foot back in there. I really don't have the patience anymore for NJ gun stores that add unnecessary requirements onto their customers on top of NJ's already ridiculous laws.

That's what I thought.

So, I brought a couple of my pistols to a local gun shop for to get some gunsmithing done. I was told I need my FID card to check my pistols in for work. Is this a legal requirement or just the businesses policy that adds more BS on top of NJ gun laws? P.S. I lost my FID and am waiting for a replacement, hence the reason I didn't have it on me.

So basically FU, but if your willing to talk, we are too. Pretty weak stance if you ask me.

One of the requirements of the FBI was to have pistols without finger grooves. So the Glocks they get will be a new model. Maybe just a Gen 4 without finger grooves, but some are speculating it's going to be a Gen 5.