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Why limit consideration to the present? Look toward the future and name him Kyle Reese!

It is even more ridiculous than that. Though you are able to bring ammo into NY legally, it is illegal under NY law for you to shoot your father's handgun at a range in the state unless you have a NYS handgun license, unless it is an official competition or you are under 18. Not that I think it would be enforced, but it might be and I would not do it in front of a police officer. Sent from my DROID2 GLOBAL using Tapatalk 2

Great person to deal with!

So he wants to enact a state law, that says that if you get your name on a federal list, under state law you can't own a gun? A list that the state can't even get you off of? A list that the feds don't even have to explain why you are on? Sounds like the exact opposite of "common sense"

I would go for the 9mm and get the .22 kit separate. Who knows if .22 frames are up to spec? Might be some room for corner cutting on those. Plus potential warrantee issues if your. 22 frame breaks shooting a lot of 9mm. The .22 kit works great by the way. If they pass this stupid 10 round mag limit you might want to go with .40 or. 45. If you can have 10 only then make it a strong ten. I wonder if anyone here knows offhand what handguns take 10 rounds of .45 in standard configuration. In New York where the number is 7 the pistol to buy is a 1911. Why get a pistol that has to have a half empty magazine? Sent from my DROID2 GLOBAL using Tapatalk 2

Does anyone have a copy of the text of the actual bills going up for a vote? Sent from my DROID2 GLOBAL using Tapatalk 2

The VQ firing pin also was good - before that, I would have numerous instances where the firing pin left a dent, but the round would not go off. I thought it was the ammo but I didn't have any problem with the same ammo in my .22 rifle. With the VQ firing pin, that problem stopped as well. Definitely recommended to make your Mark II/III reliable

I got the wood stock mossberg and bought the 18.5 inch barrel to go with it. $300 for the shotgun and $100 for the extra barrel at cabelas. The guy behind the counter actually let me put on the barrel before I bought it to make sure it fit. Looks nice and traditional with the defensive barrel and wood stock and you have the long barrel for skeet and turkey hunting. Pistol grips and black plastic stocks look tacticool but might look bad in front of a jury if you use it defending yourself. For $400 it is a nice package. Sent from my DROID2 GLOBAL using Tapatalk 2

Maksim might want to write them a letter. Seems to me there are ways to get misleading urls reassigned in the commercial context. Sent from my DROID2 GLOBAL using Tapatalk 2

Remember as well that just because some bills got sent to the floor doesn't mean it's over. Once they get to the floor, there's debate, and there is amendment. This is where ANJRPC's lobbyist working with friendly legislators can employ their own procedures to amend these bills and employ parliamentary rules of order and procedure to delay, change and block the bills from a vote, send them to another committee, etc. They don't just vote on bills coming out of committee. Some bills never get to a vote. On the national level the NRA is really good at employing procedural rules to block unfavorable legislation, those tactics work on the state level also. So this is just the beginning and this is what the ANJRPC is good at handling - in the past few years they have blocked a lot of bills from getting passed. Back in the Florio days I don't think the ANJRPC even had a lobbyist. Also remember that under Florio the NJ state legislature actually repealed the NJ AWB due to backlash. Florio vetoed the repeal, but it is remarkable that a repeal of the law actually was passed. So weird things can happen both ways down there. What speaks down there is money. Notice that the block the state house is on, if you go across the street, there are offices. The unions have an office. Occupy Wall Street has an office. All of the big interests have an office there. If you are really a big player, you have an office near the State House in Trenton, and you pay for re-election campaigns and have full time lobbyists in the State House triangulating shenanigans.

The democrats are going to pass all of these in one bill, hoping that Christie vetoes it, and then they are going to use that veto to campaign against him during his re election campaign. That is what I think. The more we are active in opposing these in Trenton, the more Christie knows he has to veto them. When it comes to an actual vote in the state senate and assembly on whatever bill they put together, we need to be all over there protesting like nuts. Also it will put a lot of heat on representatives in swing districts if we are all there. The only thing most of these critters fear is not getting re elected. Nothing else matters to most of them. Sent from my DROID2 GLOBAL using Tapatalk 2

Same here. Volquartsen extractor and firing pin made mine 100% reliable. Totally worth it Sent from my DROID2 GLOBAL using Tapatalk 2

I have some 300 savage brass for trade as well if someone reloads it! Sent from my DROID2 GLOBAL using Tapatalk 2

If Evan Nappen is on the case everyone can relax. The biggest fear is he has an attorney who will botch the arguments and confuse the law more than it already is. That wont happen if Evan Nappen is on the case. Sent from my DROID2 GLOBAL using Tapatalk 2

My god, a .22 LR blowing up? Must be a flimsy barrel to start with to do that! I mean, has anyone ever heard of another .22 LR barrel blowing up, ever? I didn't think the round was powerful enough on a regular .22 rifle, even if you packed the barrel full of lead, to blow it up. Must be an ultra thin barrel on this one.

Is your apartment in NJ? Or NYC?

Sounds like an opportunity for using a good old fashioned gunsmith to fabricate and attach some sort of scout mount on the barrel. Something small enough to not interfere with iron sights or storage of the barrel if removed. Before the aftermarket industry took off, a lot of gunsmithing was fabrication by individual smiths. Sent from my DROID2 GLOBAL using Tapatalk 2

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You are right!

Notice also that the PA AG's website still says their interpretation that the state of issuance, not the state of residency of the holder, is what governs. She didn't change that. So it would appear non-FL permits recognized in PA are ok for non residents. Of course, that is assuming the law is enforced as it is written. I know this issue of state residents bypassing their own state carry permit and just getting a Florida one is coming up in more than one state. In Texas, a lot of people are doing the same thing - letting their TX permits expire and just getting the Florida one, especially elderly people who are having trouble with the Texas requirement of making a certain score on targets at the range when they renew. When you are old and wobbly, you might not be able to hit that target enough to qualify, but it's wrong to say that they can't carry a snub nose for defense at close range. Beware - in PA carry without a permit is a misdemeanor if you are legally able to get a PA LTC, but is a felony if you are not. Since PA won't let you get a PA LTC if you are from a state that issues carry permits to its residents, and NJ falls into that category (PA doesn't care if it is discretionary), then it is a felony. I've heard of people in NJ getting PA permits, but when I asked once they said no unless I have a NJ carry permit. Permits are issued by the Sheriff so you can pick and choose which county you can apply at. If anyone knows a friendly sheriff who is willing to issue permits to people in NJ, let us know.

New Hampshire reciprocity agreement with PA doesn't say anything about having to be a resident of New Hampshire. If you got your Florida permit, you can get a New Hampshire permit easy. They issue to anyone who has a carry permit anywhere. One page form, no fingerprints, enclose photocopy of your Florida permit, no notary stamp required.

Excuse me, but what I said (which you actually bolded in red) is if you are NOT enroute to the range, you are in trouble. People here seem to think that if it doesn't have a hollow point on it, it's ok, you can keep it in your trunk, not have to worry about exemptions. That's incorrect. The law says "dum dum" which means if it is designed to expand, it is a felony if you are not in an exemption. I don't know if cops realize this, but it is right in the statute. Which means if you keep an unloaded pistol caliber rifle in your trunk (which is legal if you have a FPID) like a HiPoint Carbine, or a Kel Tec Sub 2000, or a Beretta CX4, and you think you are legal by having a box of Powr Ball ammo, or Federal Expanding Full Metal Jacket ammo in the trunk in case you need to load it to defend yourself, you are unknowingly committing a felony by possessing "dum dum" bullets outside of an exemption. I don't think people realize that here at all, they just look to see if it is hollow point. You gotta read the statute.

That is the best explanation I have ever heard regarding this.

I think there were 300 people there, that's what I estimated. 300 people in the freezing rain is a very respectable turnout.

You are right! Although the response is FMJ is Geneva Convention compliant. Lefties love the Geneva Convention... Sent from my DROID2 GLOBAL using Tapatalk 2