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Lock them up and put them in nondescript containers so that you maximize your FOURTH amendment rights. Remember that if it gives no outside indication that it contains a firearm, there is no probable cause to search. If it is locked, then a cop is going to have less ability to search anyhow because he can't physically open it without physically damaging it. A judge who believes guns should be banned might very well dismiss charges on the basis of an unjustified search. Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2

The NJ form only asks if you have been CONVICTED of a crime. That's it. It doesn't ask if a cop ever sneezed on you, it doesn't even ask if you ever got arrested. It doesn't ask if a cop ever wrote a report saying that you were a bad person, it doesn't ask if you and a cop ever had an argument over a ball game. It doesn't ask if you ever had a problem with zoning or building permits. So if you have not been CONVICTED of a crime (and if you were, you would surely remember it) you can put "NO" on the form with a clear conscience. CONVICTED means you plead guilty and were sentenced, or found by a jury to be guilty of a crime after a trial, and then sentenced. I assume none of those things ever happened to you. If it did, you would surely remember. Charges that are dropped or dismissed need not be disclosed on the form. Juvenile matters in this state generally go to the family court, not the criminal court anyhow, unless you did something really criminal. If you really want to find out what happened back then, you can go to the office of the family court in the county where you were living at the time and have them look it up. It's probably nothing - probably dismissed after a healing and might even be sealed or expunged anyhow. Very doubtful that it is actually a criminal conviction or a finding of juvenile delinquency or anything like that. Don't worry about it. Download the NJ form and look at it very carefully. It is not as big a hurdle as you think. You don't need to run a criminal history on yourself.

You don't need to take the stuff off. Send it to Williams Gunsite they are an authorized warrantee repair gunsmith they will fix it under warrantee with all your stuff in place. Believe me you want to get this fixed. I had a Savage 99 lever action lock up with a live round in the chamber while on a hunt. Pulled the trigger it went click and wouldnt open. At that point you are screwed. Was lucky to find a local gunsmith to fix the problem where I was in NY so i didnt have to bring a loaded rifle back to NJ, driving with a gun jammed shut with live chambered round and dropped hammer on dirt roads was interesting. Glad i didnt end up with a hole punched in the roof of the car. Problems like that need to be fixed or else you can get in a real jam. You will find yourself tossing it over the wall at the range some sunday evening to unjam it. Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2

There is no longer any "contiguous state" requirement on buying long guns from a FFL. That was an old rule enacted in 1968 that was repealed in 1986. http://www.atf.gov/firearms/industry/tip-of-the-month-2010.html With your NJ FOID card, you can buy a long gun from any FFL in any state provided that neither NJ nor the state that you and the dealer are physically in would forbid it.

Send it back to Marlin. No point in living with a defective gun. Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2

From what I remember, his client was an antique collector who had the drum mag with no gun and this guy had no guns at all and was totally clueless that this old object he got was illegal. So it was an antique tommy gun mag, and back then I do not believe any semi-auto only versions of that gun were made I don't event think the original tommy guns had an option for semi-auto - it was full auto or nothing on them. I agree, theoretically you could take that old drum mag and put it on a new semi-auto only tommy gun and it would fit the definition. I don't remember if it was a jury verdict or a judge's decision. In any event, I'm sure the collector was very glad to get off. As for the .40 magazine and 9mm magazine issue, this was known during the federal AWB, however, the feds allowed 10 round .40 magazines to be sold even though they held more than 10 rounds of 9mm because the feed lips are spaced different on a .40 magazine versus a 9mm magazine so they are different magazines. Just because theoretically it might work was not considered enough. Some work and some don't - the round is not positioned properly with respect to the chamber if you switch calibers in your magazine. 9mm in a .40 magazine is positioned too high and could jam or interfere with something in the action. I think the proper argument is that the magazine might work or might not work but is not allowed by the manufacturer and would void the warrantee as being abuse and use of parts not intended to be used together - a 9mm gun is not designed to use a .40 magazine. I think the best way to make sure you are legal is to verify that the caliber is stamped by the manufacturer on the magazine itself. Your defense is that it would not be proper to void the warrantee by disregarding the manufacturer's specfiic instructions and load a smaller round in there, even if theoretically more than 15 of the smaller rounds would fit. How could the law hold you criminally responsible on the basis that you might *dangerously* violate a manufacturer's specific instructions?

Then after you throw it over the wall a few times and fix it make sure to do the same thing again so it jams again. Then you can throw it over the wall again. Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2

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The muzzle energy requirement is the worst because it is a bad precedent to set. In the UK, the legality of a pellet gun is based on how much muzzle energy it produces. So once the law starts restricting based on power, zero is the ultimate goal that the legislature will seek to reach.

I've seen a draft that excluded shotguns (but only for "sporting purposes" whatever that means) but nothing excluding muzzleloaders. And the language added to the bill banning rounds over a certain amount of foot pounds of energy doesn't by its own terms exclude guns that have less energy that are still .50. The amended bill says a) if it is .50 it is banned and b) if it is over 12,000 foot pounds it is banned, one or the other is enough to ban it. I find it remarkable that of the guns I own, the one that will be banned under this supposed "Newtown" legislative response is my 1860s era muzzleloader rifle, on the basis that the lead ball it shoots is a half inch wide. Although it would be a real easy law to challenge. What is rational about banning a half an inch? We're talking about banning George Washington's rifle, if you really want to get down to it. Is Christie going to ban George Washington's rifle?

SO we will have to register our .50 muzzleloading rifles? Ridiculous!!!!

I second that. It is a magnificent rifle.

What you are thinking about is the Federal "Law Enforcement Officers Safety Act" (LEOSA) enacted in 2004. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_Enforcement_Officers_Safety_Act This law allows police to carry concealed in other states. Open carry by out of state cops in NJ is still technically illegal, but who is going to arrest them? The police? Another interesting factoid - when the LEOSA was enacted, NJ went nuts (I can't remember if it was the NJ State Police or NJ Attorney General) and issued an opinion and warning that out of state cops aren't covered by the act for the offense of carrying hollow point ammunition in their concealed handguns. The feds had to amend the LEOSA in 2010 to cover ammunition too, so that out of state cops don't commit a felony in NJ when they bring their hollow point duty rounds into the state. Like I said, watch out for ammo. One dimple on the end of the round outside of an exemption means you are are in deep trouble.

Yes you were right. And since it was the clips, I have to take back at least a little bit of the criticism I made of the Garand Guy. I mean, he could really have exhibited better customer relations, in terms of actually inspecting the action parts, and his diagnosis of weak ammo was completely wrong, but in the end the rifle he sold was good, it was the clips that were bad. What gets me is that the enblocs I had were purchased from Dillon, which is supposedly a place that doesn't sell garbage, and they were marketed as being built by the same company that made them for the US Military, on the same machines. So I figured I was buying the 100% best clips I could buy. Nope. They were heavily parkerized, and extremely tight compared to the milsurp ones that I used that worked good. Either chinese knockoffs, or this purported company "Aggressive Engineering Corp" (AEC3) isn't making them properly.

Where do you recommend getting enblocs from? I bought like 80 enblocs from Dillon, AEC3 marked, and they were the ones that gave me problems, I am throwing them all out. I bought two lots from Ebay, both of which were purportedly "USGI", one lot worked fine, the other lot jammed. Any suggestion as to where to get more from, what stamp to look for, etc?

Anyone have experience like this with enblocs not working properly? I didn't think it would be so sensitive to them.

OK well I found out what was wrong. I tried the same enblocs (AEC3 stamp) with the new follower, and the same old jam. Just about every 7th round wouldn't feed, it would go crosswise and jam with the bullet against the outside of the chamber and the primer end against the bolt. I tried another batch of enblocs, and it was the same, along with another jam where the bullet end of the cartridge would be in the chamber, and the primer end would be sticking up at a 45 degree angle and pinched by the bolt, actually enough to bend the cartridge! Looks like the enbloc didn't grab the round enough and it actually flew over the bolt as the bolt went forward. However, a THIRD batch of enblocs that I got on Ebay worked 100% reliable. So it was the enblocs. I saw something on the internet that there are some fake chinese made AEC3 stamped enblocs, that must be what is it. I trashed them. Maybe my garand is just finicky with enblocs, but I know now that I have some that work 100% reliable. Could be the reparkerizing in the receiver is too thick in the area where the follower moves. Could be it will get better with time. All I know is that I need to get more enblocs and try them out beforehand to see if they work.

Damn where did you see that bucket?

Just an update, I replaced the follower with a new piece that definitely wobbles less. Very interesting how basically everything in the action is retained with one pin. Going to EFGA tomorrow, hopefully between the extra relieving of the stock, the new follower, and some different enblocs this rifle will not jam. I will let you all know. Thanks for the help.

Did they have .22 ammo in stock? Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2

Another thing is you might want to call the mayor, if you voted for him or own a house in the town. This is shabby treatment of a taxpayer and a voter, not even asking your input before denying you. Town police are supposed to serve you, not vice versa. Sent from my DROID2 GLOBAL using Tapatalk 2

That is why I brought this up, because you think you are OK with the rifle in your trunk outside of school areas (and with a FPID you are, per NJ Statute), but then if you let your legal guard down you can get jammed up on ammo. Hollow Points - You can buy hollow points, you can bring them directly from point of purchase to your home, and you can have them in your home, and you can bring them to and from the range, but generally speaking you CAN NOT otherwise just have them in your possession. You CAN NOT have hollow points in your car, in your bag, etc, when going to the supermarket or a movie. Felony. A rule of thumb - a hollow point round is like a handgun. Buy it, bring it directly home, bring it directly to and from the range, otherwise keep it home and out of your car. Note that even if you were somehow magically able to get a NJ carry permit, EVEN THEN you couldn't load up with hollow points. So if you were going to keep a .22 rifle in your trunk, make damn sure that the ammunition you have with it isn't hollow point. There are bulk packs out there that are not hollow point. Just gotta look for them (when availability comes back). CCI also makes non-hollow point rounds. By the way the earlier advice is right - the NJ Exemptions need be followed with respect to rifles and shotguns ONLY if you don't have a FPID, and the exemptions need be followed with respect to pistols ONLY if you don't have a handgun carry permit. NJ Law operates like this: FIRST, it bans entirely possession of any firearm outright. Yes, a complete and total ban, such as would be enacted in any totalitarian country. SECOND, it provides that notwithstanding the outright ban, you can possess rifles and shotguns if you have a FPID and they are unloaded, and that you can possess pistols (loaded or not) if you have a carry permit. THIRD, it provides a list of exemptions from the outright ban, so that if you don't have a FPID and you don't have a carry permit, you can still do what is banned (possess rifles, shotguns and/or pistols) if you fit inside of one of the exemptions. Being at your house is an exemption. Going to and from the range is an exemption. Going hunting is an exemption. Being a New Jersey police officer is an exemption. Etc. Surprisingly, being a police officer from a different state is NOT an exemption, even if that police officer is in uniform. So a NYPD officer coming across the border in uniform with open carried sidearm would be an instant felon. Wonderful state. But you don't need to be in an exemption with respect to unloaded rifles and unloaded shotguns if you have a FPID, and with respect to pistols (loaded or not) if you have a pistol carry permit. Don't even need to go there, since exemptions are only necessary when you DO NOT have a FPID (or if you do have a FPID and your rifle/shotgun is loaded - such as would be the case when you are hunting) or you DO NOT have a pistol carry permit. Finally, and I say this over and over again, join the ANJRPC, pay their membership fee (what is it, like $35 bucks?) and then you will be able to call one of the six attorneys listed in the back of the member newsletter - these attorneys will answer member questions on NJ law over the phone for free.

Make sure any .22 ammo you have in the trunk is NOT hollow point. The rifle in your trunk might be legal but the bulk pack of hollow point plinking ammo is 550 counts of second degree felonies. Sent from my DROID2 GLOBAL using Tapatalk 2

The law only bans the magazine if it is for a semi-automatic firearm. Nappen got a guy off of charges who was an antique collector and had a Tommy gun drum mag, on the basis that it was for a full automatic and not a semi automatic per the statute and therefore not subject to the ban. There is no limit for magazines made for bolt or pump or lever actions. I am not saying that I would have more than a 15 rounder if I got a Mossberg MVP but I can see how an argument could be made. If the magazine was a proprietary design you could have a bolt gun with a banana clip if you wanted. Sent from my DROID2 GLOBAL using Tapatalk 2

Just food for thought what if you buy a Mossberg MVP Patrol which is a bolt action rifle in .223 that takes AR mags. If you dont have an AR would a 30 round mag for your MVP Patrol be ok since it is not semi-auto and therefore not subject to restriction? If a tree falls when nobody is around.... Sent from my DROID2 GLOBAL using Tapatalk 2