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I love that Nut, where did you get it?

In the end, one way or another, gun owners will end up paying for the cost of this. The State is strapped for cash and will only be too eager to pass these expenses on to us

Place the order yourself with Century,if they will take it and have them ship to an FFL in NJ for transfer.

You can rest assure that if NJ looses the appeal they will ask for a re-hearing en banc before the entire Third Circuit, as opposed to the three judge panel, and if that is denied, they will appeal to the Supreme Court, which may or may not grant their appeal. Even if we win in the Third Circuit, NJ State Court Judge's are not bound by the decision of the Third Circuit, even on constitutional decisions, unless injunctive relief is granted. The case before the Third Circuit is not a class action and can only indirectly impact others, unless and until, the U.S. Supreme Court, gets the issue

This is Mainor's response to my recent e mail to him and my original e mail. I intend to take him up on his offer and discuss the matter further, in person if possible, but on the phone if not. Your comments are welcome, but if you contact him or e mail him further, please do not reference his response to my e mail. The "well is already poisoned" and we don't need to poison it more. I have read your email and I thank you for contacting me. Let me start by saying I don't want to hurt anyone, and I do understand the passion that many citizens have towards this issue. I would be the first to admit that I don't look at gun ownership as you do, and it is important that I listen to you. I did try, but at the meeting the crowd began to disrespect me and at that time I stopped paying attention. By responding that way, I may have missed the testimony that would have allowed me to see things differently. I want you to understand that I too am very passionate with my stand on guns, and I continue to reflect on the babies we lost in Connecticut. Since that incident, I tend to look one way, and I shouldn't. So I'm asking you to please give me a call and allow me to listen to your concerns and I can then explain my mind. All I ask is if we see that we can't agree, please let us end the conversation by agreeing not to agree. I'm asking you call my office, if I'm not there please leave your number and I'll return your call. Respectfully, Asm. Charles Mainor February 15, 2013 The Honorable Charles Mainor New Jersey General Assembly PO Box 098 Trenton, NJ 08625-0098 Dear Assemblymember Mainor: Although I was not able to attend "your meeting" on proposed gun legislation, I did listen to it on the internet. It was readily apparent at the outset, that you had a closed mind on the subject despite some articulate views expressed by many citizens who attended the meeting. I can appreciate the utter frustration of those ordinary citizens who attended and wished to express their opinions on so important a subject. The "hearing" was a sham and conducted in an inequitable and rude manner. The following quotation pretty much sums up the inherent danger in what you are trying to accomplish by ramming through legislation that does not offer a realistic solution to the problems our society faces regarding violence in America. "Experience teaches us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when the government's purposes are beneficent. Louis D. Brandeis (Justice, United States Supreme Court)

Although I was not able to attend "your meeting" on proposed gun legislation, I did listen to it on the internet. It was readily apparent at the outset, that you had a closed mind on the subject despite some articulate views expressed by many citizens who attended the meeting. I can appreciate the utter frustration of those ordinary citizens who attended and wished to express their opinions on so important a subject. The "hearing" was a sham and conducted in an inequitable and rude manner. The following quotation pretty much sums up the inherent danger in what you are trying to accomplish by ramming through legislation that does not offer a realistic solution to the problems our society faces regarding violence in America. "Experience teaches us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when the government's purposes are beneficent." Louis D. Brandeis (Justice, United States Supreme Court)

Try the Silver Bullet in Morris County. The owner is a bit of a crab and the prices are a little high but he usually has xdm 9mm in stock that he has modified to 15 rounds.

It is impossible to make a determination regarding the legality or illegality of any existing weapon until the final version of any passed bill is signed into law because amendments may be offered when bills come up for votes by the entire assembly or senate which may alter the language of any bills released by a committee.

Only an FFL can legally receive and modify a greater than 15 round mag into a mag that holds no more than 15 rounds, if the greater than 15 round mags comes into the State of NJ assembled or unassembled. Of course if the mag is shipped to you in PA and permanently modified by you their it is ok. The reason is that possesssion of a greater than 15 round mag is considered contraband and a fourth degree crime in NJ

I just got mine. They all load 15 rounds, I don't see any reason they will not feed them, but we will see at the range.

What AA said. You can always drill it a little larger and put in a larger pin that will fit tight. As long as it does not collapse you are ok.

Don't deal with them as a transfer agent unless you are a regular, have purchased from them before, and the weapon you purchased is not one they have in stock. They don't really want to act as a transfer agent, and will only do so if you fit in the above criteria. Look at the gunbroker site and you will see FFL in NJ who have registered with GB and welcome the business

If you don't like the way they treated you don't do business with them again Contact the FFL that sold your wife the weapon and see if they can contact SS and verify her purchase and help in any way. If they can't ask them to request that SS return it to them. Contact SS and ask them what they intend to do with the weapon, I would think that if they don't intend to transfer it to your wife, they need to return in to whomever sent it to them. That would be good because you can then request that they send it to a different FFL Try to avoid threatning that you will file a criminal complaint for theft because they their knee jerk reaction will be to try and convince law enforcement they were trying to stop a straw purchase, even thought that is bs.

I just emailed riflegear.com to let them know about problems some users have experienced and requesting that they test mine, because if they will hold and load 15, they are going to be returned. Let's see what their response is

I have not encountered that problem with them, but if I did, I would just send back any that are a problem. I am not advocating one seller over another, and clearly their prices are higher, just making the members who need them now and can't or don't want to wait they have they have them. I need some now, and would buy them from Ty if he had them available now.

Just ordered some available on RifleGear.com

If you own one, what do you think of it?

He is not going to sign a bill which repeals his bill. It would have to be a legislative override after his veto and the override probably requires a 3/4 vote of both houses, which is not likely. A lawsuit in federal court probably has better odds. However, for other reasons, it is a good idea to support the petition.

Some Colt AR's are ok.

Looking for two new FDE from anyone that can spare two. Will buy them or replace them for you when two become available Or Will trade 55 rounds of 223 for two, if you have two you can spare

Tell them you are a democrat Tell them you will not longer support democrat candidates if these bills become law Tell them you will no longer contribute to the campaign of any democrats Tell them that many of these proposed laws are unconstitutional, invade your privacy and will result in tax increases because gov will need to spend more money to enforce them

In my opinion, the book is very basic and fair at best. If you want the pure basics-go for it

PLEASE CONTACT THE MAJORITY LEADERSHIP IN TRENTON NOW AND TELL THEM NOT TO ATTACK THE SECOND AMENDMENT The Majority Leadership in Trenton needs to hear from you right now! Even though New Jersey already has some of the toughest gun laws in the nation, the majority leadership in Trenton are being pressured by anti-gun legislators and organizations to blame you for the tragedy in Newtown by pushing for a full-scale assault to further restrict your Second Amendment rights and your right of self defense, including: - Extreme magazine capacity limits (5 rounds - a stealth gun ban that puts law-abiding citizens at the mercy of criminals. A3664 S2497) - Pyschological exam and in-home inspection as a pre-condition to firearms ownership (unaccountable health care professionals dictating your rights; could result in forfeiture of existing FID cards. A3676) - Forced disclosure of all household members and mental health issues as a pre-condition to firearms ownership (A3688) - Bans on common types of ammunition and ammunition sales (A3645; A3646; A3666; S2464; S2465; S2474; S2476) -.50 caliber ban that would prohibit numerous popular hunting guns (A3659; S2178) New Jersey legislators recently introduced 23 of the most extreme, anti-gun bills ever seen in the Garden State. There are more coming, and they are planning to move them quickly. Instead of focusing on issues like school security and measures to prevent the adjudicated mentally ill from gaining access to firearms, New Jersey legislators have instead targeted the Second Amendment and self-defense. None of the new proposed measures would prevent another tragedy, and all of them would severely restrict your right to defend yourself. Please immediately call or fax the majority leadership offices in the Assembly and the Senate and tell them not to attack the Second Amendment, and instead focus on issues that will actually help prevent another tragedy. The majority needs to hear from you by phone or fax (not email). ASSEMBLY MAJORITY OFFICE Phone: 609-847-3500 Fax: 609-292-2386 SENATE MAJORITY OFFICE Phone: 609-847-3700 Fax: 609-633-7254 There will be more action alerts coming in the days and weeks ahead. Your efforts are more important than ever now, so when we sound the alarm, please answer the call. http://c.ymcdn.com/e...38978442a9f0551

Menendez is just as bad, he co-sponsors all Lautenbergs bills and is also just as anti-gun

Summary of 2013 legislation Following is a summary of the 2013 legislation: Bans the sale, transfer, importation, or manufacturing of: 120 specifically-named firearms; Certain other semiautomatic rifles, handguns, shotguns that can accept a detachable magazine and have one or more military characteristics; and Semiautomatic rifles and handguns with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds. [*]Strengthens the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban and various state bans by: Moving from a 2-characteristic test to a 1-characteristic test; Eliminating the easy-to-remove bayonet mounts and flash suppressors from the characteristics test; and Banning firearms with “thumbhole stocks” and “bullet buttons” to address attempts to “work around” prior bans. [*]Bans large-capacity ammunition feeding devices capable of accepting more than 10 rounds. [*]Protects legitimate hunters and the rights of existing gun owners by: Exempting over 900 specifically-named weapons used for hunting or sporting purposes; and Exempting antique, manually-operated, and permanently disabled weapons.