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It's at Cobra One Tactical in Great Meadows (see above) 9/4-6. https://costaludus.com/courses/carbine-elements-theory-2-cet2/

Looks like Joe struck a compromise, and is now shooting for a Carbine 2 class. Based on my experience with Costa's handgun class in May, I would recommend this to anyone who is serious about his or her training. Alex V, will you be going?

Next move is to have another hearing on this en banc to nullify the original decision.

Holy crap, the uber-left Ninth Circuit amazes all of us once again! That's the second time within a week.

Joe says he's considering making the 9/4-6 class shotgun. I'm seriously considering it. Would you still do it if it changes?

Surprising that the far left Ninth Circuit would rule that way, but definitely good news for us.

Pretty sure the new mag limits only apply to semiauto firearms. The limit for SA shotguns remains 6 + 1, if I'm not mistaken.

"Constitutional," "logical," and "facts" are terms that have never mattered in NJ. Hard to be optimistic that they will suddenly be taken seriously now.

Welcome to our clubhouse! Lots of good folks and good info here. We spend a lot of time down that way in Seaside Park. Where are you located, and where do you shoot?

Agreed. I believe if you are hoping it's going to be inexpensive, you're dreaming.

I would recommend the Ruger SR22. Fun to shoot, and handles any ammo you put through it.

To my understanding, "cased" is optional, but "unloaded" is critical. Once you load it, you have committed a felony; however, as Nappen and others have stated, in the case of a dire emergency, the courts would likely not look too harshly on someone who threw a few shells in (which with a little practice, can be done quite quickly) to defend himself and family.

I posted this in the Formal Instruction thread, but it seems to have gotten lost there. Thought some might find this interesting, or perhaps even helpful. Hope cross-posting is not a punishable offense. I just spent a few days up in NH at Sig Sauer Academy over the weekend. Took their one day Defensive Handgun 104, which was relatively basic, but a good review, particularly in one-handed weapons manipulation. The other class I attended was a two-day Extreme Close Quarters Battle Long Gun with Todd Rassa, which I really enjoyed. I ran it with a Ruger PC9, a shotgun, and an AR. It involved a lot of unsighted shooting from contact distances using compressed positions, plus it incorporated a good deal of armed and unarmed combatives. It was more about fighting with a gun than it was about what we normally think of as shooting. Despite my doing a lot of training, most of it was new to me and quite interesting. Here's their description: https://www.sigsaueracademy.com/productdisplay/extreme-close-quarters-battle-long-gun-rassa I had not heard of Rassa before the class, but it turns out that he is a terrific instructor. I would recommend SSA in general, as they offer a ton of classes. Just wish they were a little closer. On the upside, with a NH CCP you can carry the whole time you're there. Note: Turns out you don't even need a permit to carry there, as NH has gone Constitutional Carry. God bless America!

I'm almost ashamed to admit it, but I also sell my brass as scrap metal when I get enough of it. Not only don't I have the time or desire to reload, but I don't understand how it would help in times of an ammo shortage, as one would still need to purchase bullets, primers, and powder. (Unless, one were to cast bullets, which is way more involved than I would want to get.)

Exactly!

Welcome to our gang. Glad you found us! There's lots you can learn on these boards. Don't be afraid to use the search function. A lot of the questions you haven't even thought of yet have already been answered.

I just spent a few days up in NH at Sig Sauer Academy over the weekend. Took their one day Defensive Handgun 104, which was relatively basic, but a good review, particularly in one-handed weapons manipulation. The other class I attended was a two-day Extreme Close Quarters Battle Long Gun with Todd Rassa, which I really enjoyed. I ran it with a Ruger PC9, a shotgun, and an AR. It involved a lot of unsighted shooting from contact distances using compressed positions, plus it incorporated a lot of armed and unarmed combatives. It was a lot more about fighting with a gun than it was about what we normally think of as shooting. Despite my doing a lot of training, most of it was new to me and quite interesting. Here's their description: https://www.sigsaueracademy.com/productdisplay/extreme-close-quarters-battle-long-gun-rassa I had not heard of Rassa before the class, but it turns out that he is a terrific instructor. I would recommend SSA in general, as they offer a ton of classes. Just wish they were a little closer. On the upside, with a NH CCP you can carry the whole time you're there.

Anyone watching Fear the Walking Dead? I might be a little retarded, but I'm really struggling with the timeline on that. Also, can't believe they killed off my favorite character!

On the bright side, I feel so much safer now.

Holy crap, I never even knew that could happen! Glad you're OK. And you didn't even get to shoot!

So just to take this thought experiment a step further (and I'm certainly open to your premise), suppose they convict 10's of thousands of NJ gun owners for a procedural crime. The penalty for breaking any firearms law in NJ is a felony. Let's say they "benevolently" decide to waive prison time for all the offenders. As far as I understand it, they will still have stripped all those people of the right to ever own firearms anywhere in the US (plus, of course, the right to vote). I guess at some point those people could go to the courts for relief, but that would be a crap shoot at best.

Damn good question! A felony conviction in NJ for a BS gun law would result in loss of the right to own firearms in all 50 states. That's a high price to pay. Sometimes a strategic retreat is the best course of action.

Sometimes their incrementalism is subtle. This time it appears pretty obvious

I find it interesting that the proposed new legislation in NJ is so onerous that it has attracted the attention of American Thinker! What I find particularly troubling about this magazine ban is that we already have an ammo limit. If we can't be trusted with 15 rounds, why should we believe they will be satisfied limiting us to 10? Seems like this is just a step on their ultimate path to zero.

I always enjoy interacting with NJGF member in real life. I've been to a number of shooting events, social events, and legislative rallies. Cherry Ridge would be really easy for me, but I would be open to anywhere else as well.