Old Glock guy

Very bad subject indeed to be discussing on the internet, for a multitude of reasons.

Oh, guess I didn't notice that. Thanks for the clarification. Seemed too good to be true, and you know what they say about things that seem too good to be true...

If they split 2-2, does it make it out of committee?

Not sure of your point. Elections are generally binary choices. Sometimes it's a matter of who you like better, but often it comes down to who you dislike the least. You say in your first sentence that you don't like Trump (Chump?), but you say you will vote for him. I think that's wise. Considering that the very future of our nation is at stake, I don't believe this is a time to stand on ideological purity.

Totally agree with you SmittyHMS. This is no time for ideological purity. The very fate of our nation is at stake, as I have noted elsewhere. Estimates are that there are around 100,000,000 gun owners in the U.S. Granted that many of them are Fudds or otherwise apathetic, if half of them would come out to vote against Hillary, she would we resoundingly crushed.

HE, is this the same Pat that you recently recommended we train with while we still had the chance?

Well said, brother. I think it's important to read this sentence closely to understand that Newtonian is not a bad guy, just a chronic pessimist, as I explained to someone on here recently. There's something to be said for happy living through low expectations. Just slightly off topic, I believe it's important to keep in mind that being prepared is not necessarily a matter of being ready for the zombie apocalypse, as I patiently explain to my wife. It's being able to sustain oneself and family in the event of an emergency, which could quite likely involve interruption of food and water supplies, and some accompanying social chaos.

I am left eye, right arm, left leg dominant. How's that for odd? I closed my right eye when I started shooting, but quickly switched to both eyes open, although my near vision is not great, so I need to squint just a bit to see my front sight. I shoot rifles and shotguns right handed, with both eyes open as well. It was a bit difficult at first, but with some practice, it has gotten to feeling pretty comfortable. I have probably made some accommodations, such as tilting my head (?), but they are so subtle that I am not consciously aware of them.

I don't have 20 years either. I'm in my 60's now, so do the math. I'm hoping to either be out of here, or have a place in another state when the anti-Second Amendment tsunami hits NJ in January, 2018. No, you have the right to bare arms.

It's in WV? Probably a little farther than I want to go, wimp that I am. Anyone know of any training closer to home? I've been through everything GFH has to offer multiple times. I've trained with MDTS, and not only doesn't Chris come to NJ anymore, but we can't even go to NY for the most part, as we can't take handguns and they have so many restrictions on rifles. I've made inquiries at Cobra One Tactical, but their Spartan Group trainers are gone for now, and it doesn't look like they will be back for many months. RTSP's offerings have been largely disappointing. Shooters and Garden State Shooting Center have a few classes, but I haven't found anything beyond basic stuff there. I've thought about taking a ride up to Sig Sauer Academy, but I'm overwhelmed by their course selection, and need to dig a little deeper. Anyone been there? Any other suggestions?

Nice! Congratulations and good luck with it. Good choice for your first shooter. What, you guys have never seen a Glock 19?

Evan Nappen (New Jersey's preeminent gun lawyer) says they are illegal, but everyone else seems to think they are OK. It would be nice to know for sure that they are legal, as one could then keep a long gun in ones trunk (as permitted under NJ law, with FID), and some loaded mags nearby in case things went suddenly bad.

There are a lot of people (mostly Democrats) who can't wait to start putting civilian weapons through that thing!

The thread could have been over right here. Good advice AdamM. New Jersey operates under the presumption of guilt for possession of handguns. Handguns are illegal in NJ (without a CCW permit, and good luck with that), except for the exemptions. The burden of proof is on the citizen, not on the state. In other words, you can be arrested and charged (according to Nappen), and it would be up to you to prove that you were operating within the exemptions, so good reason not to ever provide probable cause for a search.

Lol! Sweet setup, but I was wondering about the bench as well.

First off, hey good post Rob0115. Just reminds me how many ways this state sucks. I find it ironic that anti-gun people are always asking gun owners, "What are you so afraid of?" And now that this executive order has changed the possibility of obtaining a CCW license in NJ from impossible to nearly impossible, they are terrified that people are going to be carrying guns all over the state shooting at each other. Don't any of them ever leave this state? Don't they ever go to one of the 44 states where people carry concealed weapons? I'm willing to bet that when they go to Florida (come on, some of them must go to Florida once in awhile), that not only don't they not see people running around shooting each other, but they probably never even see a single gun. Mike Kelly had an opinion piece in The Record last week where he expressed his fear that CCW holders would not know when to use their guns, or how to use them properly. These people act as if this is some foreign concept that does not exist anywhere, when in fact all they need to do is open their eyes to see that it works in most of the rest of our nation.

Good point. For some dumb reason, it's just a little too big to fit properly in a wallet. And yes, Staples.

Don't stress too much over it. Some days at the range I shoot like a champ, other days like a chump. It's supposed to be fun. Even on your worst days, you would be pretty effective in a gun fight. I read somewhere that we improve the most if we cheer our good shots and shrug off the bad ones. It has to do with chemicals released by the brain, and reinforcing neural pathways. We tend to do the opposite, to be tough on ourselves. But research shows that we benefit most from not being too tough on ourselves.

I think you have defined the problem well, but my solution to it was exactly the opposite of yours. I buy ammo whenever I see it at a decent price, and have managed to stockpile quite a bit of it (although of course "quite a bit" means different things to different people). Given that prices are unlikely to come down in the future, and that supplies can dry up at any time for a variety of reasons, anyone serious about shooting should keep a good supply on hand. I have no interest in spending my spare time reloading, so I have made the decision to work a little more if necessary so I can afford to buy more ammo.

Great deal! Thanks. One can never have too much 9mm.

Very nice! Good luck with it.

I've had my 15-22 for four years. Love it! Had some issues running Federal bulk ammo through it, but since switching to CCI Tactical, jams have been infrequent. A few weeks ago I was shooting it up at Cherry Ridge, and got to talking with the guy next to me who also had one. He was complaining that his was jamming at least a round or two per mag. He was using Federal Match LRN. I gave him some of my CCI Tactical try, and he didn't have another issue with it. You can usually find it for around $30 for a pack of 300 on sale somewhere.

And yet Hillary continues to promote her disingenuous narrative that gun makers are the only industry exempt from liability suits. I don't know of any situation where a valid claim can be made against a company whose product is used for criminal purposes. I listened to her make that same lie last night, and of course Bernie did not hold her accountable for it. I was ready to throw up. But then I realized that it was my fault for even watching that crap.

One would think that as firearms become more popular, there would be more people to vote in favor of their ownership. Except in New Jersey, of course.

I plan to be at CR in the early afternoon tomorrow. Anyone going to be there?