Old Glock guy

Mr. Stu, with no disrespect intended to you, a well-respected poster, this entire page and a half of angst over new training requirements is based on third party hearsay?

I'm reluctant to start a new thread on this, but I'm wondering if I need a dedicated lock box for my car, or if it would be sufficient to lock my holstered handgun in my center console or in my glove box, both of which are lockable. I suppose there are two considerations: 1. Complying with the confusing law, and 2. Keeping bad guys from getting guns. The last time my car was broken into was around 40 years ago when my cassette player was stolen, so that's probably not much of a concern. It's more that pesky legal requirement that has me concerned.

Yes, that's what I'm banking on.

Pretty bad up here in north Jersey in Wayne. My grandaughter's school day at the town pool was cancelled due to the poor air quality.

I almost always carry IWB just behind my right hip, at 4:00. Gun seems to disappear there. I have occasionally tried AWIB, and while the draw is generally faster from there, I don't like that the barrel points at ones fermoral artery and other important stuff in that position. As others have noted, a little printing does not seem to be much of a concern, but OWB with summer clothing the bulge would be pretty noticeable. I'm thinking it's going to work better with heavier clothing in cooler weather.

Just bought a really nice OWB leather holster from We the People Holsters. I have carried for several years with various IWB holsters, and I realized that I'm not sure what kind of cover garment to wear with an OWB holster. For those more knowledgeable, would the OWB be better in cooler weather, under a long flannel shirt, a hoodie, or something like that? I'm kind of slim, and I'm thinking I would have a hard time concealing it under summer clothing.

Looking ahead, are we going to need to apply for our renewals 3-4 months before our current permits expire?

Is that true, no carry in Willowbrook Mall?

Pretty sure that's an old video. But good to hear that Newsmax has dedicated 2A programming. And I agree, I'm done with Fox, especially since they seem to believe that we will all get over it and come crawling back to them.

Or if you are lazy like I am, you could go to Gun for Hire. They take care of all the details, including the fingerprinting, put it all in a nice package for you, then you put in a check with your fee and send it in. I believe it costs less than $100.

I've been meaning to post a recommendation for USCCA, now that we can carry in NJ. Great organization! They put out a nice magazine, with lots of thought-provoking articles, and there is a dedicated women's section, which made me think of this discussion, The most recent issue had a piece on unique challenges women face in dressing for CCW, which included a dozen or more examples of outfits women might wear to carry in different situations.

For future reference, consider applying for your new FID card before changing your DL. The FID change can take a few weeks or more, while the DL can be changed instantly on the DMV (MVC) website, so you won't have to worry about them not matching. You can print out a letter with your new address while waiting for your new DL to arrive.

They cite five incidents in the past dozen years in which suppressors were used in mass shootings incidents to justify the urgent need for this legislation. The ignorance of our legislators about firearm and related issues is astounding.

I've been meaning to mention LA Police Gear Terrain Flex jeans for concealed carry. They come in relaxed, regular, and slim fit, with a bit of elastic in the waistband to help with IWB holsters, and they have lots of pockets for pens, knives, flashlights, spare mags, and such. The first couple of pairs I ordered were a couple of inches larger at the waist to accommodate an IWB holster, but they turned out to be way too big, and when I reordered in my usual size they worked out fine. The only negative that I can think of is that they are made in China. Also, with the warmer weather approaching, I wanted to mention that LA Police Gear makes Everyday Joe shorts, which have lot of pockets, but without the often sloppy look of cargo shorts.

Worse, just about every violation of firearms laws in NJ is a felony, so this probably is as well. Sure would hate to lose my right to own firearms in all 50 states over inadvertently carrying in a mall.

Worse, just about every violation of firearms laws in NJ is a felony, so this probably is as well. Sure would hate to lose my right to own firearms in all 50 states over inadvertently carrying in a mall.

Yes, pretty sure that's how it happened. This made the legislators realize that gun owners would never allow smart guns to reach the market under the existing legislation, so they changed it to gun stores would be required to offer a smart gun when one became available. The cynical among us would say this was a ploy to allow the development of SG's, at which point the NJ law could be changed back to making them mandatory. My big concern about SG's, besides all the obvious problems with recognition, battery failure, etc., is that bad actors, including government, could jam the frequencies making them inoperable, rendering them useless at a critical time.

Bingo, that’s exactly what I was looking for! Thanks so much.

I got a call from a detective from Wayne PD about a month ago, telling me my permit had been approved. I took the call while I was in Newark Airport, getting ready to leave for Florida for a few weeks. The detective was kind enough to call me back a couple of days ago to ask if I was going to pick up my permit. Got back yesterday, and am now the proud holder of a NJ CCW permit, something I thought I would never be able to say in my lifetime. In Florida, I'm able to carry every day, almost anywhere except bars and government buildings. Back here in NJ I'm trying to sort through the morass of laws and exclusions on where I can carry without becoming a felon.

Mrs. Peel, I agree that you would need to do a lot of practicing with your chosen method or methods of carry, but very little of it would need to be live fire. You could do most of your trials and practice at home with a safe, unloaded gun, and then just put in some limited range time to confirm that what you are doing works for you.

I see that She Equips Herself has been mentioned a few times on this thread. I should note that she takes questions from her viewers. Perhaps you could contact her to see if she has any more to offer on your situation?

OGR649, I appreciate your helpful fashion advice, as we all learn to navigate our way through the brave new world of concealed carry in NJ. I've been carrying in Florida for several years, and it has been almost exclusively in shorts. I'm going to need to learn about the subtleties of dressing for colder weather, with long pants, layers of sweaters and coats, and such.

Agreed. It is tough trying to argue with their emotion with logic, particularly when the wounds are fresh. And it's hard to counter their narrative in just a soundbite, that the choice is between gun ownership and dead children.

I just throw one in the lower support side pocket of cargo shorts, since so far I've only been carrying in Florida. When I'm wearing jeans, I have a rear/side pocket on my support side that holds one well.

Some great suggestions here. Most appreciated. Thank you gentlemen.