Old Glock guy

Come on, do you mean to tell me that you can't find a decent hiding place anywhere in your apartment? Could you stash it in a duct or something? Didn't you ever watch Breaking Bad?

Damn good question! So now not only has the Second Amendment been suspended in New Jersey, both the Fourth Amendment as well?

Sure thing. Here are a few to get you started: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_1_9?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=shoot-n-c+targets&sprefix=shoot-n-c%2Caps%2C139 Just make sure to get enough so you spend over $35 to get free shipping. (Unless you happen to have Amazon Prime, which will give you free shipping regardless of the size of your order.)

I genuinely admire your ingenuity and ambition. But I buy Shoot-N-C type targets in quantity for under a dollar each, which works out to around the same cost as 3-5 shots, depending on what ammo I'm using, so my laziness prevails. I will confess to using the pasters to repair targets, which is also probably not a terribly efficient expenditure of time, given the numbers above.

Target Sports USA (www.targetsportsusa.com) continues to have Wolf Gold for $299 per case with shipping included.

If you join the US Concealed Carry Association, they include CCW insurance with their membership fee. Plus, they are a good organization with a nifty magazine. Check them out here: https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/

Congratulations to our fearless leader and his wife!

"If only we had universal background checks, there would be no more gun violence." "We have to do something."

I had been itching to get a 9mm carbine for quite awhile now, and I just picked up a Ruger PC9 police carbine today at Mastodon. It appears to be in excellent condition. I believe it was a hot deal at $850 OTD, which included three 15 round mags, a mag holder on the stock, a sling, and a Tasco red dot optic. Immediately took it over to Cherry Ridge, where I put 100 rounds through it without a hitch. As I expected, it shoots quite smoothly. I'm thinking it might be good to keep close by for HD.

Thanks for that info. I had tried to find that out, but couldn't find it anywhere. The antis keep beating that "Background Checks" drum, but in most of these shootings, either the guns were purchased legally with background checks; or they were stolen (as in the case of Adam Lanza) where there was no opportunity for a background check. And I may be missing something here, but can someone tell me of any laws that can prevent crime? I'm under the impression that laws can only spell out what the punishment is for a particular crime, thereby perhaps deterring people from committing it.

Yes I saw that interview. Like him or not, Trump came out strongly in favor of the Second Amendment.

BTW, I like the name "Cheery Ridge" in the title of this thread. It sounds so... I don't know, cheerful!

Sorry to hear that. How did you injure it, originally and this time?

Hey, our entire state is a "Gun Free Zone"!

My GF has worked for State Farm for many years. I don't know that they are the least expensive, but their customer service is superb. Feel free to contact me if you would like her to get you a quote. Oh, and good luck in your new place!

For those who want to stay updated on this, here's the report: THURSDAY, AUGUST 13, 2015 - Today Dwight and Nick took a drive to Trenton, NJ where we filed the Motion for Default with the Court Clerk. This motion, if the standing rules of the Federal Court System are not ignored, will require a ruling from the Court which will prevent any further filings in the defense of the government defendants. These include the Governor and all of the legislative defendants. By rule, when they failed to comply with the Court Order to present a defense in a particular time frame, they automatically lost any right to request an extension of time nor will they have the right to present an opposition paper. Under these Federal rules, not even the Judge assigned to the case has the authority to allow further litigation. The only two defendants who are still actively able to continue to defend their actions are the two Retired Chiefs of Police from Northern Jersey. Their attorneys did file in time and Mr. Purpura is now preparing his reply brief to their opposition filing. However, since the opposition filing they presented to the court is so lame and failed to follow Federal guidelines for opposing civil rights violations and breaches of the Rico Statutes, a reply brief to it will be quite simple. More on that in the next update. If you would like to read and download the Motion for Default that was filed today please click the link at the end of this update. For the convenience of the Deputy Attorney General we also hand carried a copy of the Motion of Default directly to her office. We thought it might be nice to give her some exciting reading material this weekend. MOTION FOR DEFAULT Filed with the District Court of Trenton NJ 1:38 PM Thursday, August 13, 2015

I realize that they are both a little far from you, but Gun for Hire and RTSP have them for rent.

Good point siderman makes that I forgot to mention. It's nice to be able to relax at CR without having to watch the clock. You can stay there and shoot until you run out of either time or ammo.

I thought it was just me, but that article just did not seem to make any sense. Seemed like it was going in a lot of different directions, none of them connected.

If you can swing it, join both. RTSP is better for handguns, mostly for the ability to change targets whenever you want; and it's much better in bad weather. CR is great for rifles, and it's beautiful up there when the weather is nice. BTW, the RO's at CR are not only civil, but nice to talk with once you get to know them.

I shot one at Gun for Hire recently. It is definitely tiny, almost toy-like, and I would presume quite easy to conceal. I did not find it particularly fun to shoot, although perhaps that is something inherent in most pocket guns. The trigger dug into my index finger, creating a mildly painful blister. That's an issue that Hickok45 also had with it, which is kind of surprising, as our hands are vastly different in size.

Newtonian, isn't that exactly the kind of situation from which one would want to escape? I totally agree with you that if by "bugging out" we are talking about heading out to the wilderness to become a hunter and gatherer for an indeterminate length of time, then most of us would be screwed. Rather, I think the purpose of a bug out bag is to be able to escape from an emergency situation similar to what you have described above.

I agree that it's a far more likely scenario. I have a couple of bug out bags packed, but part of me feels it's a waste of a lot of good, expensive gear.

To the OP: What have you done with JackDaWhack? And is he OK?

it was a pleasant evening. Good to see the three of you again I already knew, and nice to put faces to the other three. Special thanks to the guys who brought their lovely wives and girlfriends to brighten our table.