Old Glock guy

Thanks for posting that. I've been wanting to train with them, so I'm going to try to make it to this class.

The fact that Illinois and D.C. did it both angers me and gives me hope.

I'm sure we are all aware of this, but it's interesting that they realized it such a long time ago. A THOUGHT FOR TODAY: I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the rights of the people by the gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations. -James Madison, fourth US president (16 Mar 1751-1836)

Anyone else going to this? I still plan on attending. I think I am going to be undercover posing as an anti, so I can ask some "innocent" questions. How will we recognize each other? NRA hats might be a little too obvious. :-)

As I have posted before, I can only see three possible outcomes from carrying illegally, none of them good: 1.) You carry for years, never have to use your CCW, and never get caught. That's your best case, but it means you risked a long prison term for no reason. 2.) You carry, use your CCW to save your life, then get put in prison for many years. You will come out a broken person (in many ways), but at least you saved your life. And your worst case scenario is: 3.) You carry, get caught before you need to use your CCW, and have all of the problems of #2, but without even having benefited from it.

Not impossible, but it would take a lot, considering that there are 700,000 more D's than R's in NJ. And the general populace either favors more gun control, believing the politicians that it will make them safer; or are apathetic and willing to go along with it.

Thanks Alex. Looking forward to the class!

Thanks for the update. I was just over that way last night, and was wondering when they are going to start carrying firearms and related items.

You can contact them all you want, but the D's will vote for it, the outnumbered R's will vote against it, and it will pass through committee.

I don't own a scope. My rifles either have iron sights and/or red dot optics.

Interesting character development this week. Carol's talk with that kid was chilling, particularly since she was so coldly unemotional as she spoke to him. Sasha is clearly dealing with some PTSD, as perhaps is Rick. Was he seriously considering taking out Jesse's husband just because he wants her? (I liked that scarlet "A" symbolism.) And it looks like Daryl's curiosity extends beyond exploring outside the wall. His spaghetti dinner with Aaron and Eric was about as close as they could get to describing his orientation without actually stating it. (Not that there's anything wrong with it.)

Nice Howard! Almost enough to make a person like winter. (Holy crap, could they make it any harder to find a basic smiley face???)

Lol!

Sure glad that video was short! And what the hell were they saying???

Yes, good advice. Buy more than you think you need while prices are down. It doesn't go bad (at least not for a long time), and you can be a good citizen by not contributing to the panic buying.

Gentlemen, I am totally enthusiastic about this project to restore our Second Amendment rights and bring CCW to NJ. Unlike most of our other legislative efforts where we are playing defense (like fighting further mag limit reductions, enforcing permitting laws, etc.), this is a chance to go on offense and take back what is rightly ours. But I am seeing a lot of inefficient duplication of effort on this. NJ2AS is working on it, as is SAPPA through TPATH. In addition, I have seen at least one other group fighting for CCW. IIRC, Smokin .50 is involved with one. (Sorry I have not provided links, but it's all out there.) Seems to me that instead of starting yet another group, it would be a lot more efficient to somehow get the various groups together and fight as one strong unit.

Newtonian, the First Amendment Lounge wouldn't be the same without you!

It's definitely a beautiful place, especially if you can get there during the week, when it's not too crowded.

That sounds like a great plan. Imagine if they had to give this presentation to a hostile audience, like us. I'm registering now.

I would like to ask them what they hope to accomplish by "universal background checks," which is a drum they have been beating lately. And follow up with: 1.) Don't we mostly already have them in NJ, since no one can buy a firearm without an FID card? 2.) How would they have prevented tragic shootings like Newtown? 3.) How are they going to get criminals to comply? Isn't it true that UBC's are just a way to compile a national registry, something that has always preceded confiscation? If I'm feeling really emboldened, I might tell them that I would respect them more if they just came out and said they didn't think people should own guns. And that since they can't just take them all away, due to that pesky Second Amendment, they are going to chip away at the rights of gun owners little by little. But I doubt I'll be bold enough to pull that last one off. :-)

Looks like a one-sided panel discussing Gun Violence in America. Gun Violence in America The Achievable Safe Solutions Most Americans support common sense gun safety measures and anguish over the needless gun deaths that occur across our country every day. How do we change our culture and our policies to stop this cycle of violence while respecting the rights of law abiding gun owners? Hear from four leading experts in the gun policy arena:  Adam Skaggs, Senior Counsel at Everytown for Gun Safety  Steven Fulop, Mayor of Jersey City, and member of Mayors Against Illegal Guns  Rabbi-Hazzan Shaul Marshall Praver, spiritual leader of Congregation Adath Israel of Newtown Connecticut  Mandi Perlmutter, Advocacy Lead of the NJ Chapter of Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America Here's the link with the info: https://gallery.mailchimp.com/3c3ed1a61781c0312e3c8a16f/files/NJPPNFlyer.pdf?utm_source=BergenCPGV&utm_campaign=fb718c3292-Non_signers7_21_2013&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_16a2f671b7-fb718c3292-98633229 I'm planning to attend, and if possible, to ask some polite, pointed questions.

While I suspect that there may be an element of truth in this, I would be unwilling to bet my freedom on it.

So sad to hear that. RIP

Heard Evan Nappen say that they would likely attach it to an appropriations bill. I would bet that the percentage is a lot closer to zero than to 5%.

Yes, I think this is the crux of the issue, and I believe it's what Newtonian is saying. Who cares if Mr. Almeida is able to prove he has justifiable need. That doesn't change anything for the rest of us. What we need is for the courts to rule that self defense is enough reason for a CCW permit, as provided in the Second Amendment: The right to BEAR arms.