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didn't know that, i wasn't going to go with them anyway unless all other options wouldn't work and now that takes them completely off the table... meanwhile i've found out that the 'funeral home' based ffl dealer/shop i mentioned in a previous post above is actually owned by a guy my family used for a funeral a few years back and i spoke to the owner at a cemetery... he's actually a very nice guy and unless there'll be some key reason not to, i'm going to go with it as my ffl dealer of choice for now...

[edited] you've touched upon an important aspect for me, especially regarding the second visit to take possession in light of my latest findings... about an hour ago i've entered the addresses of all 4 ffl dealers/gunshops nearest to me and looked them up in street view...i was extremely surprised to find only tiny street front shops, i mean small bodegas in nyc have much bigger streetside presence... most of them are not wheelchair accessible, at least not without serious assistance from a 3rd person [or 2 people to carry me up] due to steps in front of their door...one door seemed barely wide enough to fit a wheelchair through and actually kind of dilapidated...that vendor has no inventory posted online whatsoever and the entire size of that shop kind of excluded any possibility of having anything inside but maybe a small office... that was 2 of them, another one is in a small 2 story building located on a 2nd floor according to their address and there's no way there's any type of a lift/elevator inside, nix that one off my list... the one that seemed to be most promising regarding wheelchair access was in a large single building that likely has a ramp in the back or at one of its sides... however, the entire building is a....funeral home!!... and the last name of the funeral home's owner on a sign in front is thesame as the gun shop's owner... seems somewhat creepy and a macabre combination, i'm not sure i'd like to do business with someone who owns both a gun shop and a funeral home haha... they do seem to have good 'google' reviews, as does the tiny tenafly shop with 3 steps in front of its entrance... i think i'm down to the tenafly and the funeral home as my only choices for a local fll dealer if i will have to actually physically visit the locations and enter the premises somehow... i'll call each one and inquire whether i could fill out the paperwork during the initial visit in a car... the only other choice seems to be dick's sporting goods as a 5th alternative relatively near me but i somehow feel weird about choosing that as my choice plus it would have to be an online order from another gun vendor then... as far as the permit's extension, does that happen automatically if i fail to make the purchase before the initial 90 days are up?...i think i'd have to request an extension... well, i'd lke to purchase the handgun soon, just in case some other calamity similar to covid might happen meanwhile and result in closed shops/restrictions on visiting gun shops, et al. thus the 90 day limit should be sufficient for me to make my purchase...i'll likely buy my handgun well before this month is up, just have to figure out the logistics of actually visiting the premises... thank you for your input...

yep, that makes sense...oh well...thanks...

yes indeed, that's exactly what i was asking...sorry if i made it somewhat unclear by superfluously droning on... i see, so it could be possible to fill out and submit the paperwork, if a particular ffl dealer is game, but definitely not the latter part of actually taking possession of the firearm... thanks, that's the answer i was looking for... i actually didn't think it possible for the b/g check to be finalized that quickly in nj; at least in theory in light of your statement re- current delays... well, hopefully this particular ffl dealer will reply asap and agree to do the paperwork remotely, it would at least cut down my2 required trips there to a single one... i've found this link while searching in vain for my answer: https://www.atf.gov/firearms/applications-eform-4473-download this should likely take care of the e-mail submission of the required paperwork, along with scans of permit/driver license... thanks again for the answer to my question...

greetings, i'm in northeastern part of bergen cty, nj... applied for the nj firearm purchaser id card/permit to purchase a handgun for the 3rd time [previously around 1998 and again around 2008, both applications apparently were lost/never got a follow up] and finally was issued both, all within a space of only about 3 weeks from the time i got fingerprinted... all things considered, i'm grateful for the new online procedure and the fact that my local pd's firearms officer promptly processed my application... so, the permit issue confirmation notice included a link to, which i printed out from, the fpid card but i was dumbfounded not to find a link to the permit to purchase a handgun... however, after reading the confirmation of permits issue e-mail notification i saw the tiny single line where it states that one will not in fact see a physical handgun permit until a handgun transfer has taken place i.e.: 'Your electronic permits are now available for use. You will NOT see your permit(s) until a HANDGUN TRANSFER has been EXECUTED.' and thus i've surmised that it must mean everything is now done digitally so my 'h/g permit' is most likely in the digital domain, online database which will hopefully be accessible to the ffl dealer at the time of actual purchase... if i'm mistaken please correct me... i e-mailed my local pd's p.o. who processed my application asking about this but never received a reply... now, i'm a quad in a wheelchair since 1990 and lately got a right shoulder impingement while transferring into my chair... then, very recently, i seem to have badly overflexed something in my wrist [tendon perhaps] while transferring into my wheelchair because i was trying to take it easy on my impinged shoulder... bottom line - i can barely transfer into my chair from my bed now, ditto car to chair transfers and pushing myself in the chair, and i should try to avoid any transfers/pressure on my right arm/shoulder for at least a month or 2 to let it heal [hopefully]... my h/g permit's 90 day purchase window is valid until 05/30 so i need to buy a handgun prior to that date... i've done a simple online search and found 3 or 4 of ffl dealers within a 10-15 mile radius of my location and i like one in tenafly, nj because it seems to show one's inventory online [pretty extensive for a small gun shop imo if all those firearms are indeed in stock] and it states on its website that it's military vet owned, ex special forces no less, so it's likely a patriot/good guy owned shop...i'll likely purchase a nj compliant [i.e. 10 rd mag] glock 17 or 19 as my first purchase... a couple of days ago i next e-mailed the shop and posed an inquiry but thus far, no reply... i've scoured the web in search of an answer to my question but apparently no one has addressed such matter as of yet... so, here's my question i've asked in that e-mail and now am posing here: is it even legally an option at present to conduct the entire transaction online without having to physically visit the ffl dealer's location/store in order to first fill out the paperwork [form 4473, et al.], present the id/permit and have the background check initiated, and then again to actually take possession of the purchased firearm once the b/g check clears?... i do understand that out of state online firearm purchases must be shipped to one's same state/local ffl dealer and can't be shipped directly to a non-ffl license holder buyer... however, this is a same state [as where i reside] ffl dealer who already has firearms i'm interested in buying in inventory so if i could fill out/submit the 4473 form online and submit it to the dealer via e-mail, provide scans of my driver license/permit via the same means, it seems like a practical and viable option to be able to do so and then - once the background check clears - to have the local ffl dealer ship the firearm directly to my residence... is this currently a legally available option or am i missing something and it's not?... it would enable me to not potentially further damage my shoulder/wrist by having to perform several very painful/damaging wheelchair transfers before my handgun purchase window closes and it's probably a win for the ffl dealer as well, i.e. less hassle, while still fully adhering to the strict legal nj requirements... please advise, thanks... incidentally, if i won't receive a reply to my e-mail within a week of sending it to that gunshop/ffl dealer i'll most likely look for another place to make my permanent choice for my upcoming firearm purchases, any suggestions - bolstered by solid experience - within the 07677 area and vicinity of, say, 5-10 mile radius will be much appreciated...