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Anyone can guess as to why he left those bills alone for the weekend but I would be very surprised if they were not passed by silence or by pen anymore. I don't think Christie has ever stated his intentions to run for president as much as the media loves to run with the idea to cause a stir. At this point he could run for governor next term which seems like an easy victory for him and then be done with the whole shebang. He must know he could never win the republican nomination or majority vote at this point even if he vetoed the last few.

I have lived here my entire life so far as well but it is pretty clear that we have a conflict of interest when the state is actively denying constitutional rights. We tried to fight with votes and words but now the fight will get ugly as soon as criminals out number law abiding citizens with guns and we all know NJ has a long history of denying us the ability to defend ourselves. The only option left is to roll over and let NJ continue to shovel s*** down our throats or to move to a state that still respects us.

I wouldn't get any hope for that, it is better to move to America.

http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2013/08/newgun_bill_scorecard_track_new_jerseys_gun_control_legislation.html#incart_river_default

Another thing to consider is making sure you know if the stock is mil spec or comemercial spec along with the buffer tube or you will have a hard time fitting them together. I recently picked up a magpul fixed carbine stock for around fifty bucks so there is nothing to be pinned, if you could find one of those I would reccomend that one.

I noticed a blip from one of the NJ.com articles that Christie mentioned he will act on them within the next week or two which has to be right near the deadline anyway.

I know the deadline has to be coming soon for some of there bills and we are still waiting with bated breath. I can't see what he is stalling for if he agreed they would be signed and if he didn't they should have been veto'ed by now, why keep us all guessing on such an important issue? I am looking at property in PA either way. I've spent my whole life in NJ and know enough by now that there is no fixing this state, it has been a long time goal that I have kept putting off hoping that it could be but I don't want to raise kids here.

No doubt he will sign some bills to show that he "cares about public safety" Even though I have no intentions of buying a .50 BMG it would be unfortunate for it to be banned but maybe he will veto it because of the registration requirement, which in itself sounds scary.

Seeings how the lower is the actual firearm it wouldn't matter what upper you put on it, there is no way NJ will let you own a SBR. It would be the same as registering a supressor even if you never intend on installing it. While you could file for an NFA trust in NJ you would still not be able to own NFA items, technically you are allowed to own a machine gun but goodluck on that one.

According to the S&W webpage your model has the thumb safety so it might also have a magazine safety as well but like I said, check the side it should tell you if it will fire without a magazine. Or just take it to the range.

Mine specifically states that it will fire without the magazine on the right side of the gun, does yours say this? You might have a different model, mine has no safe selector at all and the manual might cover multiple versions.

So assuming he does veto them, if its the same people who sent them to him in the first place they will try to override it. Wouldn't there still be a good chance they could still pass? I am not sure what the success rate is for vetoed bills being overridden. I plan on moving to America within the next two years but this still concerns me.

Christie can easily beat Hillary if he switches to the Democratic party. I'm just waiting for the day he decides to come out of the closet.

I know Christie is out of state and NJ.com recently had a couple of articles about groups urging him to sign them and also the status of current bills and there are 15 on his desk. (Thanks for the link above freejersey.) There is also a gun give away program now for writing to Christie to veto the bills. The countdown is looming but we should still hope for the best.

Extra backing boards for the shotgun area is definitely helpful. Personally I like going to the Dairy Queen afterwards on 25th Street. The people are very nice and it's alway a good day when going to EFGA.

That is what I figured. I didn't think to argue about it at the time since I was just happy to pick up my permit. I suppose it is to late now but I do not like the thought of having my mugshot entered into their database since I have never commited a crime but they still have a file on me. Also this was before the Co or Ct events took place, I am not sure how long they have been doing this but I would be curious to hear if this was being done to others.

Not exactly related, but a about a year ago is when I last got a pistol permit in Phillipsburg and after 4 months when I was able to pick it up they took me in the back to get a photo. I intially went to one corner and the cheif said "No, that is for mugshots, stand in this corner." I asked him what the difference was and he just gave me a dirty look. I have gotten permits in the past but the last one is the only time that they made me take a picture. Did anyone else have a similar experience?

The governors continued inaction speaks loudly to me. If he disagreed with these bills there is no reason why they weren't vetoed already. As the countdown looms I am starting to think there is a good chance he will let them silently pass.

I don't know what everyone is confused/arguing about. I cross over to PA all the time to get to the Easton range and have never had a problem. As long as you load up to be compliant in NJ you will be fine in PA. Don't drive like a jackass and you won't get pulled over and questioned anyway. As soon as you cross over I don't see how you could have a problem strapping one on if you have a permit, just be sure to take if off when going back to NJ. I've even been pulled over in Pa and told them what I had in the back and the cop didn't care at all, I think it is still legal to have a loaded gun in the car without a permit if it isn't attached to you (In PA). I don't think a Jersey cop would care if you have guns in the trunk either assuming they are properly stored, if you are from Jersey I would hope they are NJ compliant weapons so there is no issue, if he asks where you are going just say home. I'd be a lot more worried about bringing guns into NJ than out of it.

This guy right here, knows what the **** he is talking about. I have been trying to do this and get first time shooters to the range and talking about it. Hell even my boss who is an anti gun guy brought his young sons to the range. Good things can happen if you can win over the upcoming generation instead of trying convince your own.

I've seen a lot of gardens get paved over in the last thirty years, maybe it is time to petition for us to become the "Concrete Jungle State" I'm well aware that we may only be putting off the inevitable but what else are we going to do? I would like to find myself in PA before that happens but in any state it could potentially happen if you give them enough time.

This all sounds promising, I will be writing him another email today as well. I've seen a lot of news on NJ.com about all of the shootings in Trenton recently and I want to mention how the state capitol can't even keep its own backyard clean and how these bills won't drop the violence there at all. It is clear we have societal problems that gun control bills can't fix.

Thanks guys, I am keeping my fingers crossed. If anything he would probably veto the Sweeny bill only because it would be a nightmare to implement, cost to much and would garner a lot of negative feedback. As for the others, anything can happen.

If I am not mistaken all of the bills are now sitting on his desk waiting for his decision and after 45 days of inaction they will become law. Do we have any idea what date the 45th day is? Its a bad feeling of being limbo not knowing what is going to happen next and constantly checking news and the forum to see what happens from day to day. Knowing what the deadline is would be a big help.

I made some additional changes, to keep things cleaner I will repost the latest version at the top of this post. Thanks for the help all.