Duppie

Ironically Venezuela was known throughout the Caribbean as the main source for illegal guns and more recently drugs. It comes as no surprise to Caricom nations and I expect now the rest of the world that with his rapidly declining health,eroding support among the typically poorer and desperate voters he would try to limit access to firearms.Not so much to curb the highest violent crime in Latin America but in an attempt to hobble a country that is ripe for revolution. I remember that the first time I saw a sub machine gun was on a Venezuelan patrol boat when I strayed too close to their waters trolling for king fish.

Yeah but they were all shitty jobs anyway........

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There are several things to consider with your scenario.It is very unlikely that a 14 year old is stealing your TV in order to feed his family,more likely to feed a habit or participate in some gang initiation according to some statistics. Now every gun owner that is put into such a scenario has several decisions to make, made even more difficult by New Jersey's weak castle laws. Decide a television is not worth a human life and usher the young man out the door but stand a good chance he'll be back with his friends because you were a push over? Decide that he is an imminent threat to you,your family,your belongings,your way of life and shoot him center mass so as not to leave any doubt as to your convictions?.Now you have to deal with the system, which will eat up your time,resources,emotions to start with and hope a judge and jury will deem it a righteous kill. But it's not over yet because in NJ you can still be sued civilly for wrongful death...... so now we all have to find our individual threshold of what we can live with in such a situation.Like our choices in firearms or ammo, there is no right answer just comfort levels IMO.

Perhaps....but it just strikes me as vaguely gay hero worship...sorry.

There seems to be one critical flaw however...neither was slightly funny even if we knew who he was...Too inside Gentlemen....

Enlightenment.

We're already largely perceived as militant gun nuts with lapsed morals and itchy trigger fingers....a couple yahoos is unlikely to sway opinions any further either way.

Agreed but I no longer place any importance in what people think of me and my actions just as long as it's moral and right and I, my family and friends can live with it.

Yes,we also share this forum with some who think it reasonable to pack a extra mag on the way to a morning bowel movement but I believe that the majority of us recognizes that to shoot a fellow human regardless of his intentions is a devastating and life altering action.

I hear you....one can always move to Florida... but the residents are half baked,you'll have to learn Spanglish,Yiddish and Creole and the bugs are Epic.....

Like who?While not owning as many firearms as some members,I have purchased 4 of my pistols online and priced,inquired on mags capacities,and shipping from at least a dozen online dealers and have yet for anyone to tell me they won't ship to NJ.

Harry....come on, enough with the what if's. There was more than sufficient info and legal statutes cited to make your decision if not easier,at least clearer if a home invasion occurs. In my mind it's simple....protecting family and self is paramount...home and property can be replaced and what ever the outcome,there will inevitably be costs, whether to life,freedoms,property,emotions,resources and/or confidence in self or our justice system. We all have to make our own choices and then be prepared to live with it.

I agree wholeheartedly and I've posted on several occasions that with all the focus and energies on CCW,we have not devoted enough time and attention to the gaping holes in our inadequate castle laws.

Depends on what you define as valuable IMO......The flat screen or your ability to remain free,without a wrongful death suit hanging over your head and a paycheck to enable you to buy a larger flat screen......After all,we all know the stolen one was too small anyway.....

I found that to be the case also when I finally decided to purchase one, and had to resort to the internet to source the model I wanted. Ironically for a firearm that doesn't sell, one of the largest importers and modifiers has been sold out for months on the most popular models with "no known delivery date" on future shipments.

CZ Customs swapped them out for 15 rounders for me at no charge.

Nice and I needed another chimney also......thanks.

A quarter of me is highly outraged....... the balance is attempting to use #4 in a sentence.

Keep her right side up....

Damn Harry....when do you find time to ride?

So here's the update. The snub nose is not after all but actually a S&W Model 19. It was bought new in 1998 and came with black plastic and uninstalled mahogany factory grips. Supposedly only about 50 rounds fired through her but has some surface wear from being CCW'd in a brief case. I can't wait and going out and getting another 3 ppp next week.

As an new owner of the CZ75b, I can't recommend it enough, without getting into too many specifics and specs,which I would hope you've researched beforehand,It feels,looks and shoots great,will cycle just about anything and is priced quite reasonably.I'm sure others will elaborate but for me it just felt right from the moment I held and fired one.

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