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Not true.

....or "Hornady" and ending in "Defense".....

I venture that if I were a anti wishing to rebutt this study,I would determine if it was an independent study and if not, who sponsored and/or financed it. I have no doubt that it's accurate as statistics seem to bear it out and Yale is a much respected institution but you can bet that the Anti's are working feverishly to limit the impact such a finding would bring to states fighting for CCW .

No I definitely see your point,in these economic times I would choose job over litigation also. I guess I'm a bit naive as to the possible impact owning a handgun can have on a career in a liberal leaning industry.

Retribution in what form?

I don't remember the source but the article claimed we should instead keep an eye on ammo/ammo component parts imports as the anti's next focus.They realize that a credible attack on the 2'nd amendment is difficult but limiting access to ammo and it's components is quite a bit more viable.

Thank you.

Please, in layman's terms, what will it mean to the average gun enthusiast in New Jersey if successful?

Quite right, it can be in a secured holder but because we use that car for our long distance trips out of state, sometimes with firearms,I thought it best to install a locking box.When driving to the range in a buddy's car with a trunk,I pack everything in the one bag, again securing the pistols in zippered gun rugs.

Inevitably that is one of the questions that is a source of contention with new and at times not so new gun owners in NJ,so we will generally steer them to the sticky on the main page.I drive a estate wagon so I have a lock box in the rear that I transport my guns to and from the range to remain compliant,but then transfer them to my bag in the parking lot so as not to deal with 2 heavy items at the range.

Thanks Mr Bob....missed that.

Right here in sleepy Monroe, there has been a spate of burglaries and push in robberies even within the so called secure gated communities. So it's not just a urban issue.

What astounds me is that I read of scores of instances of towns clearly violating these rules while still having expensive lawyers on the payroll. Is it a case where the powers that be simply don't check the legalities or are they just throwing everything they can think up at the wall and see what sticks? It also bothers me to think that for every instance reported and addressed here, there may be several who just abide with the increasingly punishing paperwork and sheepishly skulk off to their respective pens. We have LEO's,Lawyers and I'm sure City Fathers as members here on NJGF, What do they say?

You are to be forgiven for your confusion simply because transport of guns and ammo in NJ is confusing but if you look on the right hand side of the main forum page you will see where Vladtepes have cited and simplified the most confusing ones into a handy, easy to read guide. Please scan it at your leisure.My bag is always packed as I've listed except that my guns remain loaded with defensive rounds in several parts of the house as I have no little kids running around, otherwise a safe is recommended. Depending on the vehicle, I transport the guns in zippered gun rugs in the same bag. A short answer to your question is a loaded mag in a separate compartment of the same bag as the unloaded gun is perfectly legal to transport within some clearly defined conditions. I have won money betting with a veteran RO on this point after he confirmed it with a State Trooper. I like to spend my range time shooting not reloading, as for the bag ?,I highly recommend it simply because it's compact,cheap and sturdy and doesn't scream Range Bag.

Yep, they are sturdy,have numerous compartments,even a hidden one where I keep notes and p2p copies for my guns just in case.My second is a primary BOB that holds everything but food and water.

I bought 2 LA Police gear's Bail out bags when they were $14.99 {now $19.99} and it affords me more than enough room for a day at the range. 10 loaded 15 round mags. Letterman multitool. 200+ rounds. 2 hand guns. Eyes and ears, disposable silicone ear plugs. Stapler,extra staples. First Aid kit. Eye wash. Hand wipes. 2 small flash lights. Small tape measure. 1 fixed blade. Small field glasses. Small cleaning kit,precision oil needle, screw driver with multiple tips.Loctite blue. Sharpies,Painter's tape,Pens,small pad,2 large file clips,Nylon zip ties. Water,gum,energy bar.

I just received my second order yesterday which took15 days and according to Customer service my third order should ship today. Yeah they are jammed.

They work just fine......

Hyundai? not bloody likely....A 05 Toyota Landcruiser turbo diesel with a overland safari package and a snorkel perhaps but a Sonata on bath salts? Never.

Yes please Harry. The wife has a noon flight out tomorrow and I have 2 weeks of peace and quiet......so chew some Nicoret,or take up knitting....something Please.

Oh, there is no doubt a market and without getting into the whole fall of civilization debate,my point is just because there is such a market doesn't make the show better or it's viewers redeemable.

That doesn't vindicate the show so much as condemn the viewers. I like Pawn stars,it's less staged,informative, has likable characters and is by far better that what came after IMO.

Ha....sorta like my second date with a big girl....

The truTV description says that their customers are mainly active duty military family's which I would hope will not succumb to much 15 minutes of fame scripting... I can hope.

I'm sure we all appreciate your clarification and value your expertise with holsters and seemingly difficult yet possible accidental shots. And a belated Welcome to the forum.