Kaiser7

I know, I read up on the cases they had there, and Bob at Bob's little has filled me in on a lot of stuff too. As for the permits, it took just under 2 months for mine. The dectecive said I didn't understand the law when I told him it was supposed to be no more than 30 days. But otherwise they were helpful, though they did ask for information on my employer, which, I now don't think is part of the standard paperwork. I am glad Miller (or whatever his name was) was issued his permit. If getting kidnapped doesn't count as justifiable reason, I don't know what does. I also asked this question because I worry about ordering online, because 1) you can't see it in person, and 2) I'd worry about ordering something not NJ legal. I like to go around to various gun stores just to window shop sometimes, but I don't often see the models I'm looking for, so having it shipped to a shop would probably be my only option. It's funny, the laws are supposed to "protect us" however, I knew a guy who was selling illegal guns. It's really the old case of disarming the citizens, and doing nothing to the criminals.

Yeah, sorry about that, I misunderstood the law, thinking it also applied to anything similar, so an off brand like MAK or whatever would also be banned. And sorry for rehashing what, in retrospect, is obviously something that you're all sick of. I did try searching, but my terms probably weren't the best or whatever. I suppose I just have to work on my forum etiquette. Sorry about that. As for repealing the AWB in NJ, (which I support, a repeal that is) are we trying to work our way towards that little by little, by freeing up other rights in regards to firearms ownership? I'm actually surprised that there isn't a larger movement for this, or at least not a more vocal one. Anyway sorry for asking this question, however the answers I received are extremely helpful, and I really appreciate it.

Thanks! It'll take a while to save up for one of those, but I think they look great. Plus, I have an old CETME wood stock/foregrip lying around (Long story as to why) so maybe I can see about slapping that on. The wood just looks so nice on the G3 platform.

Hope you see this Maksim, as you seem to be someone that could help me. What AK variant do you have? I thought those were banned. Yeah, I'm not opposed to the SKS, I guess I'm just butthurt at not being able to grab a CETME, they're beautiful. I suppose I am a little weird, since my essential pickyness with guns comes from my love of reliable, higher caliber, longer range guns that just LOOK purdy to boot. Also, it might just be a misconception, but I've always feared Russian made guns aren't as accurate as other guns. I guess I should just get over it since the only semiauto military style rifles available in Jersey are ARs, M1s, and the SKS.

Actually, you're right about that, however, I'm not that big of a fan of them I suppose, at least, not with a fixed mag, as reloading it would be a pain I think. I guess I'm kind of just venting in frustration at this point, but why wouldn't a CETME or Mini-14 be legal as long as it has the parameters of legality, IE semiautomatic only, no more than 10, or 15 rounds in the magazine ( I believe it is 15 to be legal in NJ), and meets the other criteria?

I'm a big fan of military style weapons, not so much the AR, but things like the M1A, and various other semiauto rifles. I was considering several, that won't break the bank, but would be fun to shoot. These included the CETME, Mini-14, even an SKS. However, these are all banned. Granted, there are M1s around for less than an M1A, but still. And I know there is the post about what is/isn't legal in terms of semiauto rifles, that's pretty much what broke my heart. XD What I was wondering was if anyone could recommend any rifles to me, and if you have a rough estimate on the going price, that would be appreciated too. Thanks for the help.

Let me know if you do. I'm planning on joining there, but they're a little steep price wise. Of course, I probably just feel that way since I'd rather put that money towards a semi-auto rifle. XD

Welcome from Stratford, I probably live right near you haha.

I used to want one as my first "Get experience with firearms rifle" but after doing enough research, I saw a lot of the things that medicyeti said online. They're decently accurate, but you run a real risk at having something that doesn't work. Besides, if magazines are hard to find, that's a pretty annoying problem to have, even if the rest of the gun is fine. I would just say to save up a little bit and buy a new Savage, or Marlin .22 if that's what you want. Of course, I'm sure that there are people on the forums here, or other places that are selling used ones.

Sorry for the double post. I'm not going to lie, I'm not 100% sure. It has the accu-trigger, which likely only means it was probably manufactured after 2006. I know the MKIIs usually have like designations like GL for left handed, etc. all it says on my manual is "BOLT ACTION RIMFIRE : ACCUTRIGGER" and a few lines below that "MARK II TARGET" Granted, I probably should have asked more questions when I bought it, but it was what I wanted. The action was smooth, it was new, and the bore seemed good (well, it better be if it's new), it had a 10 round magazine, and the stock was very nice. Plus I remember my Poppop speaking highly of Savage, and I figured things like spare magazines would be fairly cheap.

I Googled that gun, it is somewhat in the style of an AK? I've also heard good things about the Spanish CETME, and I must admit, the wood stock on it looks beautiful with what is otherwise a G3. I'll definitely keep that in condsideration. Any other suggestions will be helpful, as I'm trying to see a lot of different things, so I can make the best decision for me. I guess my top price range would be about $1000 or so.

I am a new gun owner, in fact, I've only had my Savage MKII for about a week, and I love it, but I was wondering if anyone knew a place to get a cheap rail for it. I have a nice NC star red dot sight, and I'd also like to get a low power scope for longer range work. (I don't have the best vision, so with bulls-eye style targets, I sometimes have a hard time seeing the center, plus learning to use a scope would be helpful for hunting, which I plan to transition into.) If anyone even has a used one, that would work great for me. The other question was in regards to rifle ranges near Stratford NJ. I know of quite a few shotgun/ pistol ranges, but I don't know of too many that are 300yds or so. And that brings me to my final question, I want to buy a semiautomatic rifle in a larger caliber. Of course, ARs are quite popular, but I wasn't sure if I should get one. I know that there was a panic when Obama was elected, and people snatched up most of the .223 and 5.56 ammo out there, even going so far as to buy up reloading supplies for that caliber. I was considering one in 6.5mm Grendel, but I figure that ammo alone is hard to comeby. I really like M1As, but I don't think there are too many out there that aren't very expensive, and I'm not sure if semi-only Mini-14s are legal. Anyway, I just figured I'd throw my questions out there, and see what wisdom the NJ firearm community could give to me. Thank you very much.

Ich spreche wetwas Deutsch, meist Profanität, denn das ist, was überlebt in der Familie. Thanks for the warm welcome! Yeah, I love the 8mm K98, and I really want one, but Since Berdan primers are corrosive, I hesitate to buy one until I get used to cleaning stuff pretty well. I mean with my .22, I wasn't sure if I was cleaning it right, I used the hoppes #9 kit, but since most of my family is anti-gun, and I'm the first to get one, I haven't really had anyone to show me. If you like that, there are two books that are good to read. "The Arms of Krupp" Is an interesting book on the Krupp family, who invented the steel barreled, breech loading cannon, and how integral they were to the rise of Prussia, German unification, and the rearmament of Weimar/Nazi Germany. The other is "The Wages of Destruction" Which can be a bit boring, but it's pretty interesting to see how they paid for rearmament so quickly, and how they almost got into several wars before WWII by pissing off the US, England, and France by defaulting on loans and stuff. Cool, then hopefully you can help me find a good range in this area. I want a rifle range, I saw SJ shooting club, but $240 is hard for me to pay all at once.

Howdy everyone, My name is Matthew, but both on the New Jersey airsoft forums, and amongst my friends, I'm called Kaiser. Partially because of my love of Germany, especially their arms, and also because my German Grandfather wanted my name to be Wilhelm. Anyway, I'm an enthusiastic 19 year old shooter, who has learned the basics on airsoft guns, but since I have recently gotten my Firearms ID, I'm getting into target shooting, and maybe hunting down the road. I currently only have a Savage MkII, but I am looking for a good used semiautomatic rifle in a higher caliber. Well, glad to be a part of the community, hope to see you at the range sometime soon, and any advice, or other knowledge would be very helpful.