High Exposure

I always have issues with the Flyers.

P90 in 12g. Considering an 18” barrel in a bullpup configuration you could fit twenty 12g rounds perpendicular to the barrel.

As I understand it, the FN 5.7, the HK 4.6, and the entire PDW class of weapons currently fill a niche role - One I hope we never need CONUS. In that role, they excel. But as a general purpose or any-other-purpose, they are lacking. I imagine if these rounds were such successful “magic bullets”, we would be seeing them more frequently in the hands of men and women tasked with carrying firearms for a living.

We looked hard at this for my agency. I shot a lot of ammo through a P90 (ammo is shockingly expensive and can be hard to find). Tons-of-Fun for sure and it’s a laser beam 50 yards and in. But the terminal ballistics fall somewhere between .22LR and .17HMR. In fact, I would rather have something chambered in .17 HMR than 5.7. In police involved shootings where this was used (there had been a few down in Florida when we were looking) it took many rounds to incapacitate threats. Like almost whole 50 round mag dumps. Not trying to dissuade your choice, the P90 is a fun pick for sure - I’m just throwing some realism out there.

My little brother lived in Germany for 13 years and became a pretty respected shutzhund trainer. He is now a K9 officer living in Missouri and runs a little dog training business for Belgian Malligators on the side. Here he is with his K9 Dax: There is a world of difference between a family pet trained for a sport, which is what a shutzhund dog is, and a true protection/working dog. Food may not deter your pet, but if I’m determined, prepared, and not afraid to hurt your dog, I’ll get in and out with little issue. All your security measures do - alarm, home hardening, dogs, guards, whatever - is cost a bad guy time. Nothing will prevent a theft 100%.

That is significantly sped up.

That is disconcerting. I would at least let your local PD know about it. If you see it, call it in - even if you can’t get the plate.

Nothing a cool head, a Louisville slugger, and a trashcan lid can’t handle. Or even some patience and a room to corral the dog into. CO2 extinguisher works well too. I have seen plenty of big dogs taken out of the “home security” equation by both violent and non-violent means. Dogs are great when you are home to back them up. As a stand-alone security measure, they can be lacking if your burglar has some experience and is prepared.

I’ve wanted to send a SP101 to them for the full house custom treatment for a looooong time.

Something to think about - most of us lock up our guns, or have some kind of secure storage for them when they are not in use.This is good. Now - who here locks up their angle grinders, power drills, and assorted power tools? Your guns are secure, but every tool a burglar needs to get into your safe is laying about in the garage/shed/basement for their use. They don’t need to bring anything - All they need is time. Now, I’m not staying this is what happened at RTSP. Just something to think about when developing your security plan.

An AUG would serve you well - I would take an AUG as my only long gun with no complaints - but the AR gives you more options with the rules given in the OP.

Buy another beater to convert. Send the one you got for a song here: https://www.geminicustoms.com/ruger-revolvers/ For some fancy custom work. Thank me later

I totally get that. I am saying that my experience with shooting select fire SBRs on a regular basis lead me to believe they aren’t the best choice if you only get one AR. A 14.5”-16” midlength will be more useful and versatile. Full auto while fun is unnecessary and an ammo waster. Now, if we get unlimited uppers, a suppressed 20”SPR, and an integrally suppressed 8” barrelled .300Blk would definitely be in the quiver, along with 9mm and .22 LR conversion, oooooooohhhhhh and something big bore like .458 SOCOM or .50 Beowulf. @GRIZ I knew it @Ray Ray

You get a lot for your money with Vortex.

I have a Lone Wolf for the 9mm - I got it a long time ago. It works. If I was doing it now, it would be a KKM. The .22 is an Advantage Arms setup. It had a few teething problem until I broke it in. Runs great now. Liar, liar, pants on fire.

Should have been more clear. I was referring to my specific G35 - I carry it in .40, but I have 9mm and .22 conversion kits for it, as well as an RMR mounted to it. I have no use for .357sig. Expensive and relatively uncommon.

I have a full auto capable Colt R0933 Commando SBR at work. I’m issued 2 actually.... It’s fun, but it’s niche. For a “one gun forever” type scenario, a semi only 16” gun will serve you best, IMO.

You may be half right.... And no shocker here: AR Glock 35

What are you? Some kind of noob? Details man! Details!

Except your sense of security, your reputation for keeping guns out of the hands of bad guys*, your reputation in the community*, and your peace of mind. trag·e·dy ˈtrajədē/ noun 1. an event causing great suffering, destruction, and distress, such as a serious accident, crime, or natural catastrophe. I would say tragedy fits the description of this crime to the owners, employees, and members of the business, as well as the local community in general and anyone that may be a victim to one of the stolen guns. * Note: I am not saying RTSP did anything wrong. What I am saying is that Anti-gunners, anti 2A politicians, and the media will blame RTSP for the guns getting out into the community, instead of the burglars - where the blame rightly belongs. Unfortunately, right or wrong, the only person that has to care about the bad publicity is RTSP.

Stings a little huh?

Berry Amendment

Wtf? Ray was admittedly an ass. He apologized to you when called on it by another member here and this is your response? Do you know what the word ‘gracious’ means? Not to mention the fact that the advice you gave, that Ray called you out on the first place, was patently false. “so you can goto prison because NJ semi-Castle law says you can only use lethal force in self defense inside the home, and outside you are in illegal possession of a firearm.” Show me this law or cite an example that shows that this is true. • Yes, you have a duty to retreat to a place of safety to avoid using force - until you can’t. On your property, both in your home and curtilage, this duty is diminished as you have an expection of safety in your home and on your property. • You can not use deadly force to protect property (property as in stuff not property as in land). • You can not use deadly force on a fleeing subject as if they are fleeing, you and yours are no longer in danger of serious bodily injury or death. • You can not have created the situation that requires you to use force - example: you can’t jump in front of a moving car and shoot the driver because he was going to run you over. But if the situation rises to level where deadly force is authorized, it’s on. In your basement, your driveway, your front lawn, your bedroom, your porch, it doesn’t matter. As long as you had no safe avenue of retreat, you were protecting yourself or another from serious bodily injury or death due to the actions of another, and you did not create the situation that requires the use of deadly force in the first place, you are covered. It won’t be pretty. The aftermath will be horrendous. But you and yours will be alive and your actions will be sustained as justified.

So you think a pistol brace on a semi auto gun with a 16” barrel and overall length greater than 26” makes it a Firearm? I don’t know about that... These AR type guns with short barrels and braces are that you see all over Instagram and YouTube are considered pistols not firearms. In most states an AR pistol is ok, just not here. Again, if I take a handle off a shovel, clearly something never designed or intended to be a stock, and stick it on then back of an AR receiver extension, and add a 16” barrelled upper it’s not a stock? Shit, I’ll make my own device that is a really a pasta maker. It happens to fit on a receiver extension and is adjustable.