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I'd take the Ruger PRP over Mossberg MVP all day long. Some very switched on guys say it is the best value out there. That being said, wait until after SHOT. I hear someone is a coming out with a contender for the Ruger Precision Rifle ie: High quality and lower cost.

Deleted a Binary trigger double tap

SBR (I assume that’s what you meant) are totally cool, but not necessary. Where the SBR shines is fighting in and around cars and adding a suppressor - and I don’t think adding a suppressor to a straight rifled 11.5” barrel is a good idea, unless you like baffle strikes on your can. I can do everything I do at work with an issued 11.5” barrel with a 16” overall barrel at home or in training. I can also engage targets past 100 yards with great accuracy with a 16” rifled barrel, something that this new firearm may not be capable of without specialized ammo - if you read the article, they have a photo of a projectile with stabilizing fins. Hmmmm.... I wonder how fast the proprietary ammo will eventually add up to cost more than the $200 tax stamp fees that this is supposed to save you over the lifetime of the weapon? Anyway..... The mission drives the gear train. I just don’t see a mission where this is the best option out there - other than sticking a finger in the ATF’s eye (a valid reason) and dropping twice the price of a standard AR for a less capable firearm. I mean, if you can drop $2k on this, then buy special proprietary ammo, why can’t you drop $1200 on a SBR and $200 on a tax stamp? I just don’t see it. Which means this will probably sell like hot cakes.......

We were all wrong, and I quickly lost interest after reading the attached article. This firearm uses straight rifling, imparting no spin on the projectile. It is designed for under 100 yard shooting, and may require proprietary ammo for best results: http://www.recoilweb.com/franklin-armorys-reformation-revealed-133042.html

Lightweight is good, and this armor is pretty lightweight - for each part. Together, it’s seems comparable to other armor out there. Personally, I just don’t understand the need to customize the level of protection - especially when it’s uncomfortable hard armor to more uncomfortable hard armor. Are you going to plus up in the middle of a gunfight when the bad guys grabs a rifle? Are you going to remove a plate in the middle of a gunfight? it doesn’t just snap to the outside. You have to pull the armor out of the carrier, attach the second plate, and put the armor back into the carrier. This is not a quick process. Who isn’t just going to place the two plates together, insert them into the carrier and leave it? If you are going to wear hard armor, why not just wear rifle rated? You can get soft armor that stops pistol rounds and is much more comfortable, and covers more of your body. The product they make that I do like is a rifle rated speed plate that goes in the trauma plate pocket of your soft armor carrier. That is useful.

I have hands on with Angel Armor. I’m not sold on the usefulness of it. I need to play with it more....

No. Slow is just fucking slow. Effecient is smooth, and smooth is fast.

Nope. You can get LEO creds if you are involved in purchasing decisions for your PD.

Pretty cool PB! I had no idea. I initially thought it was an accessory for one of the tricked out PPC revolvers, but I I couldn’t find anything that looked similar...

No, it was not a robbery. It was a burglary. 2C:18-2. Burglary. a. Burglary defined. A person is guilty of burglary if, with purpose to commit an offense therein or thereon he:(1)Enters a research facility, structure, or a separately secured or occupied portion thereof unless the structure was at the time open to the public or the actor is licensed or privileged to enter;(2)Surreptitiously remains in a research facility, structure, or a separately secured or occupied portion thereof knowing that he is not licensed or privileged to do so; or(3)Trespasses in or upon utility company property where public notice prohibiting trespass is given by conspicuous posting, or fencing or other enclosure manifestly designed to exclude intruders. A robbery, by N.J. Definition, requires an element of force or implied force. C:15-1. Robbery a. Robbery defined. A person is guilty of robbery if, in the course of committing a theft, he: (1) Inflicts bodily injury or uses force upon another; or (2) Threatens another with or purposely puts him in fear of immediate bodily injury; or (3) Commits or threatens immediately to commit any crime of the first or second degree. An act shall be deemed to be included in the phrase "in the course of committing a theft" if it occurs in an attempt to commit theft or in immediate flight after the attempt or commission.

I disgree about the Machine Gun definition in NJ. ”Machine gun" means any firearm, mechanism or instrument not requiring that the trigger be pressed for each shot and having a reservoir, belt or other means of storing and carrying ammunition which can be loaded into the firearm, mechanism or instrument and fired therefrom.” A binary trigger does not require the trigger to be pressed for each shot. In Binary mode, you get 2 shots for every press of the trigger - one on the press and one on the release. A release is not a press.

Yup. I got word last night. Love or hate RTSP, this is bad all the way around.

Agreed. However, his could be the shittiest firearm of all time and people will buy it just to stick a finger in the eye of the ATF.

Very interesting... I am am also hearing that a lot of folks are guessing that it's due to the definitions. That a length over 26" negates the SBR definition, and a barrel under 16" doesn't fit rifle - but I am not sold on that. In some ways it makes sense, if you think of guns like the keltec cmr- length under 26" but barrel over 16"- it might fit in a similar framework.

I am not a lawyer, but I think it would be good. Nothing says it has to be permanent. Look at the Magpul Fixed MOE Carbine Stock. One screw and it comes off leaving a bare receiver extension that can accept a standard adjustable stock.

http://nj1015.com/good-guy-with-a-gun-stops-7-eleven-robbery-but-is-this-nj/ Hamilton, PD is saying it didn’t happen....

All you need is a gas block and a gas tube. Shouldn’t cost more than $75 depending on what you want.

The gun in that link - the XO-26 - is not the new NFA Firearm they are teasing. The XO-26 series in that link has been on the market for years.

I think DI is the way to go. I think adding a piston to an AR does nothing but add complexity, cost, and headaches to an ordinarily simple and robust system. If you want to go piston, get a different platform. I don’t think adding a piston will do anything for precision. You are $1800 in - that’s quite an investment. Do you have a parts list?

Why are you refusing to go DI? Why do you think making it a piston gun will make it the “best”?

I like standard Mil-Spec coatings on my BCG and a standard weight and shape. Don’t get me wrong, easier to clean, self libricating, cooler running, faster reciprocating all sounds great. But, the rifle is still generating the same amount of heat and carbon. It has to go somewhere. The AR was designed to work a certain way. Changing the characteristics of the BCG means the heat and crud have to go somewhere it wasn’t designed to and I don’t know what that will do.

I have seen many BCGs fail, however never from a bad firing pin. I did see a fairly experienced, and indignant, SOF Group Sgt have repeated fail to fire - a little investigation revealed that he did not put his BCG back together correctly after cleaning his rifle back in his hotel room the night before. Much finger pointing and laughing followed. Most BCG issues I have seen are bad staking allowing the gas key to come loose. I have also seen a lot of just plain out of spec parts - most commonly a bad cam pin, then bad bolt itself. Also, bolt failure at a rediculously low round count - like sheared bolt lugs at under 2000 rounds. These were commonly on hobby level guns like Stag, Olympic, and Bushmaster. The BCG is the heart of the system - Buy quality partsZ That doesn’t mean you need a $400 Uncle Cheech’s Unobtaonium Coated, low mass, high reliability BCG, but absolutely Mil-spec is a good place to start. Do your research and buy with confidence.

That’s not the new non-SBR SBR. The XO-26 is an existing product that they have been making for years. Not their new hotness.

I can’t find this. Where did you see that?