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Caetano has nothing to do with actual carry of a firearm or Less than Lethal device. It simply affirms that the 2A applies to all common tools of self defense, even those that weren't available at the time the founding fathers penned the 2A. It's about ownership. The NJAG is recognizing that, as per Heller and Caetano, a complete prohibition of the ownership of a common tool of self defense is unconstitutional. It has zero impact on changing the states draconian "justifiable need" laws or any lessening of the restriction of carrying a weapon outside your home for self defense. The AG is just saying that they think you should be allowed to own a CED - their opinion doesn't even carry any weight at this point.

Looks good! Use an optic mount or other 1913 clamp to center the rail with the receiver. I use and old Aimpoint Pro QRP mount I have lying around and bridge the gap between the 2 rail sections before tightening everything down. Wait for Black Friday - PA, DSG, SKD, Midway, Brownells, etc... will have great sales.

That's what the 30 second duration is for on the non-LEO models. The idea is you fire it at someone and then run away - giving you 30 seconds to get to safety. Where are you going to go in 30 second in your home that is any safer? That's great out on the street - walking to your car in a parking deck, someone attempts to mug you so you give them Edison's Medicine and beat feet. Maybe it doesn't rise to the level "fearing for your life" but the tool is appropriate for the level of force required in a free state. How does that work in a state that requires almost the same standard for deadly force before using less than lethal? It's literally the difference between the word Imminent and Immediate that gives permission to use less than lethal instead of deadly force.

Ok, great. "Stun Guns" are allowed in NJ and you can use them in your homes. Cool! I'm all about the courts determine what I think is a bad law as unconstitutional. But, before you cry out in victory over this injustice, how much do you know about Taser's, NMI, and how they actually work? When are you going to use it? How are you going to use it? Stun guns don't work like on TV where you hit someone and they are knocked unconscious for 2 hours. They are simply a tool for pain compliance - think an electro-Stim machine from a physical therapist cranked to 100 - it hurts but it isn't knockout inducing. As soon as you lose contact, the effect - which is nothing more than a severe muscle cramping sensation - is over. Now say you got the right spot, with enough spread between probes, and successfully get NMI and the person locks up. Now what? You have 5-30 seconds to make your next move. What's it gonna be? Now, define less than lethal force as NJ sees it? Currently, in NJ, less than lethal force can only be used if lethal force is justified as well. We are ten years behind in our use of force options in NJ. The AG basically just admitted to unconstitutionally prohibiting a device that is basically useless in this state to anyone but police. It's no victory - It's a pacifier. You want to run out and spend $1000 on a Taser in NJ, be my guest. It's a waste at this point in time. You are approaching a false summit and using up all your pro - and unbeknownst to you, you still have half a rope length to get to your anchors. You are looking down, contemplating taking the king swing, and are reaching for some manky fixed gear to save your ass.

No need to translate. I spent 14 years climbing trad and Alpine style all over North America. Now, to expand your metaphor - I think you are getting off route and straying into 5.11a territory on an offwidth crack with a long runout over sketchy pro, Some heinous rope drag, and all the confidence of being a solid 5.5 lead climber. Not all forward moves are useful. Sometimes you need to traverse to stay on route. A ceremonial "win", is one thing. Actually applying your WIN to real world situation is another story altogether.

If anyone is interested.... http://www.njgunforums.com/forum/index.php/topic/84031-raffle-for-custom-grip-work-by-modern-materiel/#entry1075768

If anyone is interested.... http://www.njgunforums.com/forum/index.php/topic/84031-raffle-for-custom-grip-work-by-modern-materiel/#entry1075768

Members - original post is updated with members who have paid and are entered into the raffle. Make sure you include your NJGF screen name when sending your PP payment.

Yup. And they are good kits. That's where I get my LPKs from. Then I add an ALG ACT or a Geisselle SSA

I just sent Joe $0.50 as a test, went through fine. Try again. Make sure it's [email protected] Materiel with an E NOT Material with an A.

This new interpretation may allow NJ residents to own a Taser, it will not allow you to carry one any more than you can currently carry a firearm. So, to expand - you can't carry one on your person but you can have a Taser in your home. Great! Now what? There aren't exactly Taser ranges, they only go 15-25', they aren't very accurate and each shot costs $30. Not exactly a lot of fun factor going on. Now, there's a bump in the night in your home where you can only use force to defend yourself and/or loved ones from significant injury or death, you really gonna reach for a Taser where if all goes well will give you a 30 second period of temporary incapacitation after which the offender can recover and continue his aggressive acts? If I am defending myself in a life or death situation, I'm not using a Taser.

If you think the rules for carrying a Taser will be more relaxed than for carrying a handgun, you are out of your mind. Look what LEOs in NJ have to go through to carry one: Any cop can carry a gun. But, to carry a CED (Taser X2) I need special written permission from my Chief, review by the AG's office, and hours of training, and multiple written tests. Even then, I can't own a Taser (the device is owned by the agency) and can only carry it on duty. Oh, I almost forgot - The Taser has to have a camera attached to it. Carrying a CED is is more regulated than carrying a full auto carbine.

Miata, I have no idea if that device is any good. Taser makes good gear, but that thing is new. Additionally, right now the only devices authorized by the State of NJ for LEO use are the Taser X26 and the Taser X2. I don't know if any agency in the state that carries the X26. Also, keep in mind that the civilian models are generally not as powerful voltage wise, but they run for a 30 second discharge, not a 5 second ride like LEO devices. If you think about it, and the differences between why a citizen would use a Taser vs a LEO, it makes sense. 30 seconds give a citizen a chance to run away to a place of safety after an unplanned depoliynent in self defense. 5 seconds gives LEOs a chance to take control of a potentially dangerous situation after a planned deployment with a rehearsed and trained response. Another thing to keep in mind. A Taser is not a panacea for self defense. A lot can go wrong with a Taser deployment and it is not a substitute for deadly force - if that's what is warranted. A taser should be carried in addition to a handgun, not in place of.

I am in the market to get some work done on my Glock 23, or maybe my Glock 35, or maybe both and I was talking to Joe from Modern Materiel about the work he did for my buddy on a Glock 40 MOS: http://www.njgunforums.com/forum/index.php/topic/83947-custom-glock-40-mos-done-up-right-by-modern-materiel/ Close up of the edging and stippling work: We were talking about how much the stippling and what not cost and he said he charged $400 for the work shown on my buddies gun, which is really a very reasonable price for what he did - stipple with edging, removal of Glock finger bumps, undercut the trigger guard, contour and shape the grip, and add two forward reference points. Now, I have been wanting to get some grip work done for a while and I was planning on using either Gentle Ben at Boresight Solutions or Doug Holloway at ATEi, but after shooting 2 of Joe's Modern Material Glocks - a G17 and a G23 and seeing my buddies G40 I was so impressed and excited that I decided I wanted to have MM do it. Their work was outstanding - easily equal to the guns I have shot by Ben and Doug if not nicer - and they are a local NJ company. I won't have to ship anything, saving me overnight shipping fees. While we were BSing and working out details for my project, we started talking about the forum, running a gun business in NJ, and how it's hard to be a new company doing this work as it is a costly service - you really do get what you pay for in the firearms world and quality work rarely comes cheap. He was telling me that as a business you need to get your work into the hands of the community that will use it to build your reputation. You need to prove to all of the potential users out there that you do good work and you stand behind it. That until you have the reputation of doing quality work at a fair price it is hard getting new customers. Talking with Joe you could tell, it's a labor of love and he isn't going to quit. He wants everyone to shoot his guns because his guns are awesome and he wants to share that with NJ shooters. I was telling him that as a consumer, people have a hard time taking a chance and dropping a lot of cash on a relatively new and unknown entity - especially with the big names like Robar, Bowie, Boresight, and ATEi out there that have been doing fine work for a while now. You can go on any gun board on the internet and read posts about how good of a job these companies did on their pistols. How does a new company compete with that? Well, for 30 of my teammates and I, we were lucky enough to be in a position to have Joe and Pete from Modern Material come to our range and demo their stuff - two complete carbines and a couple of tricked out custom Glocks. We were all impressed. Most people in the market for this kind of work aren't so lucky. Not everyone gets a chance to get live fire hands on, to feel the grip angle and the stippling, to see the advantage of the undercut trigger guard, to actually shoot a gun with the mods you want before dropping a significant chunk of change on mods to their favorite blaster. Dropping ~$400 on mods you "think" you want plus whatever the gun costs - it isn't like you can return it to factory specs after this kind of work - without trying them out can be a tough pill to swallow for some. As we were talking I had an idea - how about a raffle. Get Modern Materiel's work out into our little community here and in the hands of one of the forum members to show off what they can do. An easy and affordable way for one forum member to get their dirty little hands on one of Joe's MM custom polymer frames for 10% of the total cost. He liked the idea and we started fleshing it out. $20 chances open to the first 20 NJGF members interested enough to drop $20 - A 1 in 20 chance to get a $400 custom grip job. BLUF - I am not entering the raffle. I will not benefit from it at all. I do not work for Modern Materiel and I will have nothing to do with this other than brainstorming it up and announcing it here. I have seen and shot Joe's work and don't need convincing - I am sold. Like I said - this is to get one of Modern Materiel's custom polymer grip jobs into the hands of a NJGF member to show what they are all about and get the name of a local NJ based firearms business out there. So on to the details: - This is applicable to ANY Polymer framed gun - Glock, M&P, Kahr, Ruger, Walter, HK, etc... - This is for a custom frame/grip modification package to a user supplied polymer frame pistol only. The work is valued at $400 - It is open to the first 20 NJGF members that wish to enter - Interested members have to post their interest in this thread so screen names can be tracked. - The cost is $20 per entry, multiple entries allowed - Member must PayPal $20 per entry to: [email protected] before midnight on Sunday 11/13/16 - A running list of who has paid will be kept in the thread - When 20 the list reaches 20 paid entries Modern Material will select a winner and post it here - If there aren't 20 entries by midnight on Sunday, refunds will be issued to each person - The winner will need to contact Modern Material to arrange getting their polymer pistol frame to them for the work. They are a fully licensed FFL so you can ship it. I suggest dropping it off in person so you can meet the guys and see the shop - Definitely worth it. I hope enough guys are interested enough to take advantage of this! I'm excited to see these guns getting out there in our community! Members entered in the raffle: 1) TDIguy 2) DirtyDigz 3) ataimwolswol 4) Fishnut 5) ataimwolswol 6) Checko 7) Shrödinger's cat 8) Kevin125 9) GunFuPanda 10) Rob0115 11) Ben 12) TDIguy 13) Rob0115 14) Kevin125 15) Deerslayer 16) Fishnut 17) Eric H. 18) ChrisJM981 19) ChrisJM981 20) Checko

Taser is a brand name not a type of device. The type of device is classified as a Conducted Electrical Device or CED in NJ. Taser classifies it as a Conducted Electrical Weapon or CEW. By statute, NJ considers any CED/CEW a Stun Gun whether it can induce Neuro Muscular Incapacitation (NMI) - the ability to lock the muscles up so that the target can not overcome - or not. Technically, a stun gun does not fire darts and works only on pain compliance. It does not have the ability to produce NMI. A Taser has the ability to do both. A lot of factors have to line up in order for a Taser to get a desired effect. It's not quite as "point and shoot" as Taser Inc would have you believe.

As one of only a handful of Taser instructors in the State, I am watching this with interest...

They are still in Philly partying!

Happy Birthday Devil Dogs!

Well, since the scene he describes isn't in the original, I am guessing he is talking about the sequel that is in theater's now.

You will have to knock that bottom sling mount out. It's easy - just knock out the rivet with an appropriate size punch. It's really a useless piece anyway. A sling mount at 6O'clock is really designed for a carry strap, not a sling. Honestly, with what you are saying, I think you would be better served with the Magpul Option - that's what my HD gun and one work gun have. If you aren't mounting a VIS or IR laser and you don't plan on shooting long distances with the hand guard braced against cover or some kind of support, the Magpul is more than adequate.

You could get a DD Omega 7. It is a drop in free float 7" rail and would suit your needs. But, you are gonna pay for it. I have used one for quite a while until I determined that I wanted a slimmer, longer, and lighter rail. I would go with the Troy MRF CX 12 if I were you. https://troyind.com/products/mrf-12cx-blk You will find the longer rail extremely useful. Again, if you are gong to do it, do it once, and do it right.

Couple of questions: - You going for looks or function? - Free float or not? - What are you planning on attaching to the rails? - Is this for a new build or an existing complete rifle? -- If it is going on an existing complete rifle, does it have a pinned muzzle device or are you able to remove the existing gas block/FSB? If you are not going to free float the rail, you are honestly better off with Magpul MOE hand guards. They will do anything you could want with no issues and for a very reasonable price. So, if all you want to add to your carbine is a white light, a vertical grip/handstop, and a sling mount there is no need to add the weight of a full metal rail system for a non free floating system. Now, a free float system is a nice addition - some would argue mandatory - on a rifle for social or gaming purposes. If you are going free float you have some good options - but they are all more expensive than the Magpul MOE. The DD Omega is a nice option for a full rail - easy install option. It's pricey but worth the money in my opinion. The Troy mentioned above is another real nice option for a free float full rail. If this is going on an existing rifle with a pinned brake/Comp and you are handy and feel a little froggy, you can cut/grind down your FSB and that opens a hole slew of new options for lightweight tube style hand guards that use the standard barrel nut. If you can remove the current gas block to swap out the existing barrel nut, your options are endless.

No, I don't remember. The ones I saw were during EAG classes. They weren't my guns and I don't know the quality of the BCGs they were running. I swap in new rings ~3k rounds, or if my mil-spec bolt fails the test I described above (I haven't had one fail early yet). For my needs it is cheap insurance.