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The gap is normal. If you want to close the gap, you can get an XL sleeve on a L belt. But it’s really personal preference. Which UBL “ride” length did you get? Keep in Ming your paddle holster is going to fit weirdly on the UBL and be lower on the shank than a holster designed for the UBL.

I get what you are saying and it’s an option - but I’ll take barrel length over receiver extension length all day long.

If I’m not wearing armor, I prefer a mid or low ride UBL with a Safariland QLS plate. If I am wearing armor, I like a thigh rig with a drop-flex UBL and a QLS plate. The plate gives the ability to swap holsters and gives a bit of stand-off from the body - which I prefer. Also, I wear the thigh plate with the drop-flex UBL very, very high on my thigh - maybe an inch lower than the low ride UBL.

Ok. So that a “battle-belt” set up with a padded sleeve over the load bearing belt. It should be worn in the same place your pants belt would go. I usually remove my pants belt when wearing my war belt There should be an open slot on the bottom of the pad that will allow access to the belt to add a holster. You are going to want a Safariland holster with a UBL (Universal Belt Loop) to attach to the underbelt. Unfortunately, the paddle holsters are not a great choice for swapping to a UBL hanger because the paddle attaches to the holster body all the way at the top of the holster. The holsters made for the UBL attach to the hanger in the middle of the holster body.

Look online and post a link to the one you have.

Pics would be helpful - HSGI makes a few different belt setups with MOLLE. You could have a Battle Belt type or their cobra belt. Don’t get that MOLLE adapter. You will probably need a different holster. The paddle holsters are for pants belt and adding a UBL (Universal Belt Loop) hanger is less than ideal due to the attachment point on the paddle holsters being so high on the holster.

The 11.5” won’t make the minimum SBF length without pinning a brake. The barrels MM use are custom cut to 11.75” (as specified by MM) specifically to eliminate the pinning of the brake and still making the minimum OAL required by the ATF after redefining how they measure OAL on a SBF.

Ballistic Advantage make the SBF barrels for MM. They are the same barrel as in their Patrol model - Govt profile, 4150 steel, black nitride - just cut down to the 11.75” specifically for MM. I have experience with these barrels in their Patrol rifle: 50 yards, prone, no rest, Fed 64gr TRU. Best 2 groups of the day while confirming zero prior to a low-light shooting class. These barrels can shoot.

Brownells has the 407C (only a dot for a reticle) for $189.00 and free shipping with promo code PKB. * Only difference between the 407 and 507 is the 407 has only a dot for a reticle, and the 507 has a choice of three - dot, circle, and dot with circle.

Parts are not created equal and I don’t aspire to mediocrity. You truly do get what you pay for. Also, when buying a complete/finished firearm from a reputable company you get a warranty/guarantee backed by said company that you do not get when you build yourself.

BCM has well over 2000 sku numbers for uppers - over 25 different skus for 11.5” uppers alone. They have been building 11.5” and 12.5” uppers, including their Kino uppers (basically a SBR version of a Dissipator) for years. Paul probably does not even care that these NFA Firearms are a thing here. Enough legitimate SBR owners and .Gov, military and LE organs are buying BCM products that the pistol/NFA market is just a bonus. Don’t read into it any more than the fact that BCM has a sale on 11.5” uppers in a new configuration.

The ad in your original post IS for a DI gun - Not a piston gun.

I’m confused - the ad posted in the OP states it is “Direct Gas Impingement” not piston. You keep saying DI but you are talking about the firearm as if it was piston. All of the other SBFs on the market are DI systems.

I want one too. But I’m not fooling myself thinking I’m saving 9.5” or 7.5” off my typical favorite carbine configuration. I’m going from a 14.5” barrel + muzzle device and a fixed stock to an 11.75” barrel + muzzle device and the ability to collapse a brace. I’m cutting 2.75” and retaining an ability taken for granted in free America. Nothing more. Nothing less. I already have a 16” barreled MSAR (AUG copy) that is shorter overall than my issued 11.5” Colt R0933 Commando. If you are really looking for an SBR substitute with minimal OAL without running afoul of tricky NFA or NJ laws - a bull pup is a solid option.

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I didn’t ask. They had parts for maybe 20-25 9mm SBFs. I know they are keen to get them out, but they are concentrating on getting the 5.56 SBFs out the door.

I was over at MM today. They are building their SBFs as we speak. They just got 11.75” barrels that will satisfy the 26” OAL requirement without any pinning of the muzzle device or pistol brace. They are also machining new longer hand guards that will maximize the available real estate to coincide with the extra barrel length - it adds a whole extra MLOK slot. New configuration looks very sharp with less barrel hanging out in front. Subjectively - it balances better and the extra length actually makes the gun more comfortable, especially when using the VFG and a white light. I also saw the parts for a few 9mm versions in the bins getting ready for assembly. Those are going to be amazeballs.

I know this is the Troy thread, but the MM guns are using an 11.75” barrel - and new appropriately lengthened handguard. This combo makes the OAL of the SBF right at the approved required length when measured against the new ATF standard and negates any required pinning on either end of the firearm.

I’d rather pin a muzzle brake than the stock to make up the length. And honestly, I don’t understand the fascination with the shorter barrels. 11.5” vs 12.5” is a deal breaker? Really? Have you ever really compared the two? From a handling standpoint, they are virtually identical - barring the addition of a suppressor or the need to fight in and around confided spaces ie: ships, cars, third world shithole houses with tiny doors and rooms. Also, from a reliability and terminal ballistics standpoint - the 12.5” barrel has a slight advantage in my opinion.

The 9.5” (actually 34-26.5=7.5 not 9.5 by the way ) difference as you measured it is irrelevant and misleading. What matters is the overall length of the firearm in the configuration in which you shoot the gun the best. You shoot an AR best with the stock in position 3 and an overall length of 34”. The overall length of the non-NFA firearm needs to be measured with its brace in a comparable position and the difference noted then. The overall length while the firearm is in a configuration that doesn’t suit itself to your shooting style is balderdash. Barrel length is the determining factor here. From the front of the receiver, to the back of the brace or stock should always be the same length for each individual. It may change by one notch if you are going in and out of hard armor, but that’s about it. The ability to adjust the length of pull is an advantage if you are sharing the firearms with others. Otherwise, it’s not that big of a deal. If you shoot best in position 3, why would you move it to position 2 or 4 if you are shooting.....

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The practical advantage to a brace is it makes it a pistol. The firearm is therefore treated as a pistol under the law making it legal to carry loaded/CCW in a car vs a rifle that must be unloaded in most states. It is also easier when transporting over state line to just bring your “pistol” that it is getting “permission” to travel to another state with an SBR. A $200 tax stamp is really negligible in the cost of the weapon when you consider a quality pistol brace setup costs, at a minimum, an extra $100 over what you would have spent on a regular stock anyway.