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I don't understand your arguement. Where are the numbers that show how many people have died on their side? I'd like to see how many of the bad guys have died so I can see the ratio of how bad we are getting our ass kicked. And it's WAR, not monopoly, people will always be dying unfortunately. Nobody is taking all of your guns away. They are just making it more difficult to get into "bad" guys hands. Sure there will always be ways around whatever provisious they put in place, but you have to start some where. I think you're jumping the gun [pun intended] with connecting a stricter gun policy manifesting itself into speech censorship. There are some things Americans would never stand for and that's one of them. 70% of Americans back more gun control. That's a pretty high percentage you can't refute. http://www.langerres...1GunControl.pdf And if AW are ok, why only stop there? Why not allow automatic weapons? If you can afford it, why not be able to have your own nuclear weapon? Where do you draw the line in what's ok and what isn't?

Kicking our ass in Afghanistan? LMFAO.

I am for the changes they are making. Really, what purpose does an AW have for the common man? (Spare me the need to protect ourselves from the government speak. They have tanks, nuclear weapons, missles, and fighter jets. It's not musket vs musket like it was 200+ years ago.)

That's the issue. I cleaned the crane sleeve on the outside, but where it slips over the extractor rod but inside the cylinder is where there is still grime. That's what I need to clean. I'm going to drop some Hoppes 9 down the extractor rod into that cylinder and let it sit for a few minutes and then try to scrub it with pipe cleaners. Hopefully that will break it up. As for the extractor rod being bent... I really doubt it. It seems straight to me and there is no problem at all with popping the cylinder in and out of the gun. Just a rough spot when one of the cylinders cycles around.

I watched the first 3 mins of this video. At 2:45 in the youtube video shows the crane removed from the cylinder but the ejector rod still in the cylinder. Unfortunately he skips over the part I'd need. OK, took a look at that screw. It wasn't even hand tight on... a little bit looser than that. Anyway, I took out that screw and then slid the crane forward and out of the cylinder. I put some Hoppes on the exposed cylinder on the crane that fits inside the cylinder and it definitely had some black soot on it. Cleaned it off with a rag and put it back on the cylinder but it's still rough. I took it out again and there's still soot on the crane cylinder. This is because of the fact that the spring ejector goes thru the center of the cylinder as well. Because of this I can't get anything in there to clean it with solvent. I guess I need to find out how to remove the ejector rod from the cylinder.

It looks like to get the cylinder off you have to dissemble the gun using a flathead screwdriver. That would be my next course of action but I'd like to hear other options before I have to take anything apart.

So today I took the (new to me) S&W Model 19-4 revolver to the range. It was the first time the gun had been fired in 20+ years. Prior to shooting the gun operated fine. I shot around 56 .38 special rounds and 50 .357 rounds out of it. When I got home and went to clean the gun I discovered the cylinder seems to have a rough spot. That is, if I flip the cylinder out and go to spin it, it spins freely about 330 degrees and then the last 30 degrees take a decent amount of force to push it around. You also notice the rough spot when dry firing the cylinder thru the 6 shots. I don't see any visible reason for it to be stuck. I've tried spraying some Rem Oil on the cylinder by the rod where it connects to the body of the gun and hoping it runs down the shaft to loosen things up. We'll see how it goes. Anyone have any other ideas or thoughts on what to do?

Just to bring some closure to this thread. I ended up taking the forearm off. I cut a piece of sheetmetal to make a mold for the broken stock and coated in in wax. I then secured it in place with tape. Then I used some JB Weld and put that in to fill the broken section and let it dry. Then I cut and sanded it down and it's good to go now! Thanks everyone.

I'm curious, would a simple bookbag that has 2 zippers on one zipper track with a small keylock going through the eyelit in each zipper qualify as a locked container?

I have a sedan so it will be secured away in the trunk. Looking over your list, what is the staple gun for? Hanging targets?

yeah, i have a backpack i could use. didn't think of that.

Excuse my noobness. But I'm going to SJSC the Sunday after Thanksgiving. My revolver currently resides in a box (like a shoebox) in my nightstand. I do not own a range bag and don't plan on going to the range so much that I want to invest in one at this point. Also, I only own 1 handgun anyway. That said, I want to make sure I abide by all gun laws. Is it acceptable to carry the gun in the box from my car to the range and have in my other hand a box filled with ammo?

It actually is oiled down. The dust is sticking to it. It looks MUCH worse in the photo than it is reality but I will oil it all down anyway.

I can take better pics of the hammer and trigger tonight for confirmation. By the way, from the pics it looks like the bluing on the gun might be funny but that's just fuzz/dust stuck to the gun.

Target trigger? What is that and how can I check to see if it has it?

Thanks parker. The ears are kind of the issue though. The forestock my father purchased to replace the one I have does not have the ears. Other than that it looks almost identical to the one that's on there. (Same checkering in the wood and all). The problem is, without those ears, when the pump is pulled back to the trigger the area where shells eject (underneath) would be partially blocked by the forend. So therein lies the problem. I think I'm stuck with the eared forestock.

My dad bought this lightly used for home protection back in 1981. Still has the receipt in the box from when he bought it. Cost him $189 out the door. He sold it to me yesterday for $350. It's my first handgun and it's also for home protection. I'll be taking it to the range (SJSC) the Sunday after Thanksgiving to shoot it for the first time. I'm not sure how much action the gun has seen. My dad says he's only shot it once and that was well over 25 years ago. I can't find a blemish on the gun aside from the mark the spring in the center of the cylinder creates when opening and closing the cylinder. What do you guys think? Here's some pics. (Ignore the surgical glove I'm wearing. Don't want to get any human oils on the gun and then clean it).

A long time ago my father bought me an Ithaca 12 gauge, model 37 featherweight. I really like the gun (my only complaint is that it's 2 3/4" instead of 3" but whatever). He bought the gun for me used and unfortunately a previous owner damaged the inside of the forestock on the left side. So me being right handed can feel it everytime I pump the shotgun. It doesn't take away from the function of the shotgun but it's a cosmetic blemish and a nuisance to the touch. That said I'd like to find a replacement for it. My father located a very similar forestock for it but it's not a match. Looking online it looks like there is a large variety of options and finding one compatible with mine could be a challenge. Was hoping someone here might point me in the direction I could locate a new one. Below are some pics of my forestock and the damaged forestock.

I decided to go skeet shooting on Saturday in Millville (at the WMA area) and stopped at Butch's Gun World in Vineland on the way. There I picked up some ammo for skeet and the Model 19. I bought a box of 38 special Remington Target rounds, Independence .357 rounds, and Hornady Critical Defense 38 special ammo for home protection. Yesterday I picked up the revolver and it's safe at home now. I think I'm going shooting on 11/27 at SJSC to shoot it (it will be my first handgun shooting experience). Very excited.

I'm originally from Vineland and have had my FID since 2002. I used to hunt in high school so I own a pair of shotguns (Ithica 12 gauge pump, and a single shot 20 gauge). and a (Lyman) muzzle loader. (Well technically my father owns them because it was before I had my FID but they'll be in my name by the end of the weekend). I moved to Gloucester Township about 4.5 yrs ago. I applied for a change of address card on August 17th, 2011 and received a call on November 8th, 2011 that the ID card was finally ready for pick up. I never called to check on it but when I had dropped off the forms they told me it would be 5 weeks. Obviously it was more time than that. FWIW, they never contacted any of my references and the only forms I had to fill out were the standard ones. I think the cost was $18 and had to be a money order. Anyway, I also applied for a handgun permit and have that as well. My father used to be a gun collector (mostly vintage shotguns) and at one time had a Federal License. I told him how I was interested in purchasing a handgun and he has offered to sell me his S&W Model 19 revolver. It has a 4" barrel and is in mint condition. He bought it new in 1986 (I'm pretty sure of the year) for a whopping $150. I remember seeing the receipt inside the case with the gun when I looked at it several months ago. Anyway, he is willing to sell it to me at a family discount of $350. My dad takes excellent care of all of his guns so I have no doubts it's in great working order. The gun hasn't been fired in well over 20 years I'm sure. I planned on taking it to a range to get my feet wet with it. Then it will rest in my house as a home defense security measure. A couple of questions: -I did some researching and I see a lot of people putting S&W Model 19-X, where X represents a number. I originally thought the X would be for the barrel length but it seems that's not the case. Perhaps it's the generation number? Wikipedia lists a lot of engineering changes over the years. Can someone clarify what the x stands for? -What type of ammo would you suggest I load for home defense. Please keep in mind that I live in a townhome (end unit). So I share a wall with a neighbor. Obviously I need to be conscience of penetration issues. -Lastly, thoughts on my choice of gun? Thanks everyone and look forward to being a part of the community!