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"IANAL" ...??? C

A friend has a Hi-Point that I have shot. I wouldn't hesitate to have one bedside since if ever it was used it would most likely be taken away and I wouldn't miss it. That being said, it's not a "fun" gun to shoot. Gets the job done in an uncomfortable manner. YMMV. C

Congrats on the purchase. On the 1911's, don't be scared off by the naysayers as regards Kimber. They get poo-pooed on here a lot. I have one and love it. I wouldn't hesitate to buy another. That being said, if I was to add to the stable, I would seriously look at a Rock Island. I like the 2011 rail gun. It's around 6+change I believe. Other than that, the things I would like to actually own are a bit above your 1k cutoff. Please post pics of the wheelgun. I just got my first as well and am looking forward to shooting it on mohday. Went with the Smith as well. Good luck with everything. C

It always fascinates me how these threads evolve. To those that have/are slamming Smokin .50... I'm a big boy and quite able to make my own decisions. I appreciate the warning and words of caution but the thought of bringing an absolute stranger into my home gives me enough cause to be extremely cautious and to do my own research. Add to that the fact that I will be trusting this person for guidance to get through something I hope to never have to go through. Well, I'll do a bit more investigation. I love the article that was posted. Very insightful. As an FYI, this revolver is not my only firearm. I am simply asking for guidance on using it in a defensive role as the preponderance of information is geared toward semi-autos. That's all. Thanks again to all that have responded so far. Please continue. C

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Ooooops!!! Yup. Forgot to mention that local is key. I'm in Bergen. Willing to travel but closer is better. C

Anyone know if anyone teaches a class specifically for the revolver and it's uses in a HD/defensive environment? Focusing on loading and reloading, target acquisitiion and engagement. I have just purchased a revolver and am quite interested in learning to use it to its full potential. And if no one does teach it, might be a niche program to add to a line up (hint-hint). C

Bob, Alec, and Nick... Tenafly is not much of a stickler on the rules, it seems. Shouldn't be a problem. And even if it is, and I take a "procedural" I am ok with it. I just like shooting something more than paper. C

Got my revolver. Pics to follow. C

I believe it is a rule specific to this range. Just putting out a heads up. C

Come shoot my 9mm Kimber... It'll change your mind. Flawless even with MY reloads C

If you are starting out with 9mm, you won't really NEED all the stuff posted above. I have a Lyman Turret press that I got used, a 25 dollar digital scale and a balance beam that I was given. I was also given a powder measure. I use my (really nice) digital calipers from my garage and I purchased a hand primer for 35 bux or so. You can save on some of what I mentioned by purchasing on line. I choose to purchase at a brick and mortar. I clean my rounds before I punch out the primer in an old milk jug with hot water, a little dish detergent, and some vinegar. Soak them for an hour or two and rinse them well. No real need for a tumbler for pistol. I set them in front of a fan and the next day they're clean. Punch them, prime them, load them and cap'em. I use the balance for the initial setting of the powder measure, double check it with the digital, and check every 10-15 with the digital. I check every 20 or so for length on the caliper. Voila, loaded ammo. Good luck. C

Ummmmmmm... wow. I am officially a little jealous. C

Oh, btw, my 9mm rounds are about 13 cents as opposed to at least 20 cents per for the cheap stuff. Shoots "better" than factory. Take a look at the Lee Classic Turret Press. It's a great option as you can take it nice and slow to learn on and it will move along nicely once you are comfortable. It may be my next reloading purchase once I clear my plate with the other stuff I have in the works. Good luck. C

Reloading is fun. Does it save me money or time... nope. That's not the point for me. I truly enjoy heading down the basement and spending an hour at the bench. I reload 9mm and .357. I hate reloading 9mm as I'm basically on a single stage. But, I do it in batches and that makes it bearable. I also really like the fact that the rounds I load are very smooth shooting. That plus the fact that they get thru my 9mm 1911 makes me very proud. Good luck. C

Also, I just did a shoot at TRPC and they have a "180" rule where the muzzle of the gun cannot break a 180 degree line thru the body from the shoulder to the ankle. If your holster has a cant to it, it will break the 180 rule and not be allowed on that range for competition. YMMV. C

Why not OMG Custom Guns in... Bayonne? C

Ebay? Craigslist? Cool sink. C

Not sure where in Bergen Cty you are but don't forget to check out Ramsey Outdoor up in Ramsey. Ask to speak with Ron. I have found their prices to be a touch better than Meltzer's. YMMV. If you would like to try out some different stuff, I live in Paramus and will happily meet you at BH when I get back from vacation. C

The crazy thing is is that there is no money in guns. The guns are the big initial outlay. But, on my first gun, which was close to a grand, the shop was only grossing about a 150 dollar profit. Now, that might seem like a lot. Or it might seem like they are "ripping" us off with the markup. But consider that they have to have it shipped-$. Fill out the paperwork when it arrives-$. Deal with customers that want to fondle it-$. Move it in and out of the safe-$. Pay for the building and lights/heat/air conditioning-$$$. It's really not a lot. I used to work in retail and a 15% margin means you're going out of business. The money is in ammo. Which, if you practice regularly, will FAR exceed the price of the firearm... quickly. Me, I would say to get too cheap. Especially on your first. If you do (I've fired a Kel-Tec, yuck) you may wind up essentially throwing that $250 down the toilet as the gun will not be a lot of fun to shoot and will get sold at a loss or sit in a drawer to rot. Get something you might actually enjoy. Shop around, for both a firearm and a shop you like. Don't go the cheap route. You might find your self a hobby you enjoy. YMMV. C

I didn't find anyone there to be overly obnoxious. Sorry for the confusion. I DO, however find it obnoxious for a range to force me to buy their ammo at over-inflated prices when renting a firearm. I get the whole "use the ammo we sell here" when renting a gun. But charging 40 dollars, the non-member price, for a box of 50 to the rentor is just obnoxious. If they are gonna force you to buy, they should as a courtesy offer the ammo at the "reduced" (read: closer to real retail) member price. They will not get any more of my hard earned money. YMMV. C

Kinda nice seeing them go after real criminals illegally selling guns. It seems like what the SHOULD be doing. C

Most likely all done in some kids bedroom on his laptop. Amazing. C

Remember, you can get a Kimber in .45 and then get a conversion for it. You will essentially have 2 guns on one permit. .22 is so cheap to shoot and .45 is so FUN to shoot. Good luck with your decision. C

Other than the fact that those that are aggressively fighting for our rights in this state are having a meeting? C