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That's why I didn't try a guy's TRR a couple of months ago. Such a sweet gun. A sweet gun that I can't afford. So, I took a pass. I've found other guns that have since caught my fancy. Trust me, something always pops up. Especially when a good deal is present. I truly need to avoid gun stores/counters for a while... C

I've noticed that they are much friendlier behind the counter as well. Glad to see and hear that others are having a similar experience. C

Hey Jer. Thanks for the update and offer. I will be taking you up on it. Primers don't matter as I will be priming off press. I am more comfortable that way and will stick to it. Your example is exactly what I am trying to avoid... The situation of cranking away and not realizing that there's a problem until I have done a bunch of rounds and then need to go and re-check them all. I know there will be operator error and I would like to mitigate my time rectifying it. I know I can make more ammo on the 650 or LNL. However, the 550 will make as much as I will be needing in the forseeable future. Add to that the fact that I enjoy getting down stairs and loading and the 550 seems like a perfect fit. For me, it's not about get a bunch done for a match. It's about spending an hour away from the crazy's I live with!! I can most definitely be persuaded to go another way but for now the 550 seems right. C

Thanks for the contact info. I tried calling him to no avail. Not sure if I have the correct number. I'll send him an email in short order. C

You know, when I put the title up, I thought it could be a touch "offensive" to some. I should have put "Traditional". Sorry for the confusion. All the guns listed are cool. Hell, most guns are cool. I just happen to not be a fan of "Tacti-Cool". Doesn't do it for me. I do however value function as well as aesthetics and completely understand the value of AR's, AK's and their ilk. I just don't particularly want to own one. I like blue steel and wood grain. It's just more appealing to me. If I could design a gun, it would be something like the Winchester I posted above with a laminated wood stock, detachable 5 round flush fit magazine, iron sights and a rail for a scope. Medium contour barrel, 20". Semi. In .223/5.56. Oh well. C

So, I've been doing a bit more research. I believe that I'll be going with a 550 sometime early in the new year. Reason: control. I like the fact that everything is manual. Sounds odd to many, I'm sure, but it comforts me that that's the case. I like the fact that I oversee every operation and can easily stop in the middle and rectify something if need be. Now the question is where to order it? I know Brian Enos site has great prices but if anyone on here knows of a Jersey boy selling at a competitive price let me know. I prefer buying local even if it's a few dollars more. I won't stand to be ripped off, but a couple of bucks I can swallow. Old School, get ready... I'm coming to check it out. C

That's what it's looking like. Makes me sad... C

Just like this, but in .223/5.56:

Always considering the "What If?" scenario. C

Gun will be a range toy. Saiga's are even uglier than AR's. My opinion, of course. I guess if I was to characterize what I'm looking for, it'd be a 10/22 chambered in .223/5.56. I also shot a friend's Winchester or Remington .308 semi. Gorgeous gun. Checkered walnut stock, iron sights and scope mounts. Accurate enough. But it's a .308. My love affair with the caliber comes from the fact that reloading is easy and inexpensive. I don't currently reload any rifle calibers, but if I'm gonna, it'll be the .223. Cheap and easy to find... again. The low recoil is a definite plus as well as there won't be a buffer tube to mitigate it. JT, I'd prefer a semi only because I would like the maneuverability and fast follow up of the semi. C

I'm not an AR fan. However, I do see the benefit of having one and they are fun to shoot. I'm just wondering if anyone makes a cool, semi auto rifle that I'm missing? I know about the Ruger Mini-14 and the God-awful Kel-Tec SU-thingy. What else is out there? I'm probably on a quest for something that doesn't exist but I would love something a bit more elegant that any of those offerings. Nice wood, synthetic or laminate stock, a smaller receiver, no rails/foregrips/lights or lasers. Just a nice looking gun to mount a scope on and have some fun. Let me know if you have any ideas. BTW, the sky is DEFINITELY NOT the limit? C

I forgot the key to my lock. I had it passed thru the rifle for safety (damn kids!!) and got to the range. Had to borrow a bolt cutter to cut it off. Sucked. Shoulda just turned around as it wound up being a sucky day on the line. Meh. The guys at GFH were more than helpful.. C

Yes. I have the finger groove model. C PS, I hate insomnia...

I have the Pachmayrs on mine. I like them a lot. If you want to try them, I'm in the Paramus area. Feel free to swing over. Just send me a PM and it can happen. I like the Pachy's better than the Hogues. They are more comfortable for me. C

Bob, that's gorgeous!! I really like it. I stumbled across something myself yesterday. I'll post pics of it in a different thread. But, like you, I happened to strike up a conversation with the right person at the right time. Good luck with her. C

I just picked up 1k of the 185gn RN .45acp's. So far they look good. Gonna weigh some tomorrow before I load them up and see how they do for consistency. Also will take a look at them dimensionally. I'll report back. Thanks to all that recommended Alex. He seems like a really good guy that goes above and beyond to take care of the regular shooters. Very cool. C

Again, I thank everyone on here for their opinions. I truly do appreciate them. Any other first hand feed back is always appreciated. C

WJFortier, thanks for the write up/review of the L-N-L. Much appreciated. C

An update... I've had time today. A bit too much actually. Did a little research. Don't want the 650 as it's apparently a pain to switch calibers. I shoot about 4-500 rounds per month between several guns. Looks like it'll be between the Hornady L-N-L AP or the Dillon 550. Any advice skewed that way will be appreciated. C

I've been reloading for about a year and a half. Currently I have a Lyman T-Mag II. It works well. I feel like my ammo quality is pretty consistent. I feel like I would like to speed it up a bit. So, I find myself considering a progressive. In the Dillon line, I'm between the 650 and the 550. I don't completely understand the differences between them. Do they both take standard dies or are they both proprietary? I know the 650 is auto indexing and the 500 manual, but what else is different between them? I would also consider a Hornady L-N-L AP if I found one. Any pros over the Dillon? Do they accept any dies or must I use Hornady? I assume all the machines are a bit finicky to set up but once that's accomplished they run like buttah. Am I wrong in that? Will either company's machine need more or less twiddling as time moves on? Thanks and I look forward to a civil discussion... C

Bought it. Watched it. Liked it. C

Actually, from all accounts, he knows his way around guns. Plus, if you've ever seen the man weld you would not question his ability to make things. He's a brilliant mechanic. Guns, as opposed to internal combustion engines, are fairly simple. I think he'll be fine. Honestly, I want one. I'm a fan of his vision. His bike were and always have been some of my favorites. Great lines. He also knows paint and design in his own way. So again, I think he'll be fine. C

My guess is is that since he is poor and he most likely is most in "need" of owning a firearm, he will not be allowed to carry or own it. He will be forced to sell it or turn it over to the state for safe keeping. If this is a real court case, I don't think he has a snowball's chance of winning. It will be considered by the press to be a nuisance case and he'll be persecuted by the media and demonized by the public. C

Whitney Wolverine, polished. 586 4" no lock in really good shape. Might look at an AR of some type at some point. I don't love them, but feel like I should own one. Shot a really nice Winchester .308 semi auto yesterday. Wouldn't mind one of those. Something in .338 Lapua. I don't shoot long range but would like the option. I have a lot of what I want in pistols. I like to shoot more than collect. But, I'm sure that if I REALLY thought about it, I could come up with more to add. Really what I want is a progressive press. Ah well. Next year. C

Do you just love rubbing our noses in it?!?!?!? Fixed the last sentence, btw. C