deadeye74

I read the same thing at my range. Bob Viden had an article in the NRA NJ range news letter. I believe they are waiting on a bill number. It would put the responsibility of the P2P on the gun shop. It did not mention eliminating OGAM or address how exemptions would be handled. Let's just hope that if the PD issued P2P goes away, OGAM will also go bye bye next. The story mentions that it has the support of many NJ police chiefs who believe the NJ P2P does nothing but take man hours away from other law enforcement work. There still is the issue of the FID card, which for a new gun owner or someone changing addresses is a pain in the arse. I will have to see if I can find a copy of the story.

It's already oozing. Plesantville and parts of Egg Harbor Twp. are getting bad. Right across the state you have Camden oozing their scum into the neighboring towns. All of us in the middle are stuck with turds floating past us traveling from toilet to toilet. The Expressway/Rt. 42 is turning into a sewer pipe.

I looked up the CZ after reading your post. It is appealing but I'm still on the fence. I plan to start shooting IDPA very soon. Just located a left handed holster for my XDM 45, which is the pistol I shoot best out of my collection. The XDM 9mm with 3.8" barrel keeps crossing my mind being I really like the feel of the XDM. If I lean towards a polymer, the Sig 250 and HK P30 are a couple of other choices I would consider. Of course I can always go get another pile of permits and just buy them all!

I'm in AC often. Its no surprising to hear that they are hiring armed guards. Not long ago people were car jacked, kidnapped and shot from a casino parking garage. Nothing is sacred in that town. Two years ago before Christmas, a guy dressed as Santa was out on the boardwalk handing out flyers for the Irish Pub and got held up at knife point for his gloves! All this goes on and yet the DGE does not want armed security in the casinos. Imagine bring the poor security guard on grave shift that happens upon a car jacking or parking garage robbery and only has a two way radio to defend himself.

That can be an option. Are the CZ's all metal? I'm trying to lean towards a metal frame instead of polymer.

Have you ever tried Arms N Ammo? PK90 from the forum is the owner. He is just a few miles down the road from SJSC/Bangers. No attitude at his shop and he definitely works hard at getting you what you ask for. I have stopped into Bangers, and PK90's pricing was better.

Yes it is disgusting. AC kind of reminds me of the "fake" town in the movie Blazing Saddles. The cardboard facade looked all pretty just like a real town but behind it was nothing but empty wasteland. Wander off of the "yellow brick road" in AC and your in a war zone! When I read the part about retired or off duty LEO having the jobs, I did think that was a bit discriminatory. There is no chance in hell of anyone else ever working as an armed guard unless by some miracle we get CCW.

Guards carry guns, shoppers pay for bags at new Atlantic City supermarket Save-A-Lot http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/communities/atlantic-city_pleasantville_brigantine/guards-carry-guns-shoppers-pay-for-bags-at-new-atlantic/article_fe7cb4b2-a04e-11e1-adfc-001a4bcf887a.html

I agree we need to do something. Given that this is a presidential election year, perhaps it may be better to wait until 2013 to get on the ballot. Some people only go out to vote for presidential elections, and considering NJ's strong democratic party history and BO's anti gun stance, we could be facing a higher number of anti's on election day than usual.

If you have read any previous posts on this forum, you ave seen that no one expects any one "win" for us pro 2a types to solve all the problems. One thing leads to another in our situation. Win and get a real 2A in the NJ constitution and slowly everything will start to change. It's been said here before that we need a real Castle doctrine, right to carry, overhaul of the permit system, overhaul of gun regulations. I posted earlier in this thread questioning what happens if we loose. I asked because if we did get a slot on the ballot and lost, my fear is that the defeat will be used against us in future legal challenges. If we can get on the ballot, rock on! Then we all have a duty to inform those who don't follow this forum, NJ2AS, etc why they should embrace a 2A in NJ and not vote against it.

I will feed her a loving diet of brass, lead, and MPro7! Either way I go, I don't plan on shooting this one as much as my other pistols, at least after the initial break in. Like my .44 I pick up next week for hand gun hunting, this is a more purpose piece than general range gun. I'm not reloading yet, so it will be factory ammo at first. I've been saving my brass in anticipation!

What happens if it gets on the ballot and we loose? Does that mean we the gun owners/gun rights supporters are permanently screwed?

Ok, this may seem like opening up pandoras box, but I'm going to throw this out there. I am getting my "last" P2P extended in two weeks. It is number 6 of 6 from my last round of permits. Purposely, for financial reasons (I want to shift funds from pistol purchases to some long guns I want), I do not plan on applying for more permits until the fall at the earliest. I keep going back in forth between a 10MM like a Colt Delta Elite for an out of state carry/hunting back up weapon, or a 1911 in .45ACP for range/out of state carry use. If these were your choices, which way would you go?

I do believe you can get a Sig 1911 XO for around $850. A couple bucks outside your spending range, but the Sig's have a pretty good rep. I had a Taurus PT1911 in 9mm. Ended up trading it in towards my Sig 226 Tac Ops in .40. I can't speak for the Taurus 1911 in .45, but the 9mm I had was dam picky with ammo and a pain when searching for spare mags.

I agree with this. You said she's getting disturbing phone calls. In this day and age you mean to tell me she does not have caller ID on either the cell phone or house phone? Just don't answer the "blocked" or "unknown number" calls. Write down the number of the alleged "disturbing calls" and if it persists call the cops to see if you can file a complaint. I am 10000% in support of defending YOUR home with firearms. Something sounds strange about this friend who is not really a gun fan as you put is asking you to bring over "some heat". Considering it is her parents house, if I were to even remotely consider this, first thing would be to have her parents blessing to have the gun in the house. Not sure what it does to the legality issue, but to me it seems like the right thing to do. Are you planning on staying in the house together and never leaving for the week? What do you do to secure your gun when you go out to work or for an errand? What happens if someone breaks in when you step out and takes your gun? If the potential is there for you to have a dream night three way date, concentrate on a bottle of Kettle One, a pack of Trojans and leave the weapon at home!

Welcome! And another vote for South Jersey Shooting Club!

So who makes a range bag with a built in filing cabinet?

Congrats and stick to it! Quitting is on my list to do. About 6 years ago I quit cold turkey. Woke up one morning and said that's it. Immediately joined a gym that day and hit the treadmill. Didn't even think about starting again until two years later when I was going through some problems with my ex. I went to a party and had one, then next thing you know I started again. The day is gonna come soon when I wake up and say that's it again. I now look at it as a 1,000 rounds of 9mm a month gone up in smoke!!

http://www.colddeadhands.com/firearms.htm Scroll down the list and you can see prices on lots of different things that may spark your interest.

I was in St. Louis today and was telling some of the locals I was with about the NJ duty to retreat. They were in shock that any state would have such idiotic laws. Im sure this pile of elephant dung will get all kinds of press from the leftist media and of course the Brady bunch. Just remember, November is around the corner...

I purchased mine from PK90. He had to order it but it was at his shop in about a week. It may be a long drive, but I highly recommend giving him a call. www.colddeadhands.com

I'm definitely going to be buying the 357 sig barrel. Will be something good to spend the 20% off coupon I got for the sig store.

I'm looking for a 5" barrel 9mm without going into a straight up 1911 pistol. Had a 9mm 1911 but didn't care for it. Sig seems to have the only metal frame 5" barrel 9mm around and considering my love for my 226 in .40, definitely am leaving that way.

I have a 226 Tactical Operations model in .40. I noticed three main differences from other 226's while shopping. The tac ops has a SRT or Short Reset Trigger, 4 15 round mags, and sig lite rear site/tru glow fiber optic front sight. I'm eyeing up a P226 X5 all around in 9mm as a big contender for my June purchase. Price differences between the 226's seem to vary from $750 to over $1k.

I recently picked up a Sig P226 Tactical Operation model in .40 complete with 4 15 round mags, short reset trigger and night sights. I'm definitely in love!