Qel Hoth

Tonight pinwheels and pigs in a blanket. Tomorrow a normal turkey dinner, homemade stuffing, mashed potatoes, baked corn, Apple crisp, lemon meriangue pie, and coconut cusuard.

The fact that cops are paid by citizens taxes is irrelevant. Police do not work for YOU, they do not take orders from YOU. They work for SOCIETY and take orders (through elected officials and their appointees) from SOCIETY. "I pay your salary so go fugg off and arrest somebody instead of giving me this ticket" is a really old line, and is beyond stupid. That said, I can't really comment on the tactics of addressing people who very well may be armed (they were standing next to a truck full of guns a minute ago...), so it is reasonable to assume they may still be armed. People can go from friendly to trying to kill you in an instant for a variety of reasons. However, finger on the trigger does seem a bit excessive. To me anyway, gun drawn signals willingness to fire, finger on the trigger is intent to fire.

Better question, why is this data considered public records by state law?

Honestly, there is a valid constitutional argument for that very statement. What is to stop the government from saying that anyone who disagrees with the government is now a prohibited person? Oh, wait... they already did. This is just the thing that the 2A was designed to prevent. It isn't about self defense, and it certainly isn't about hunting, it's sole purpose is to provide a meaningful way to prevent the government from forcing it will upon the people.

This... I was planning on building my AR sometime next year, as I have other firearms I wish to purchase first. However, I will likely be buying a stripped lower sooner than I had anticipated so I own the "gun" should the unlikely event of a federal AWB that bans all AR-15 and clones, regardless of evil features.

The NJ laws do harm people who are not prohibited persons. If someone who has no mental health history and no criminal convictions decides they want to buy their first gun TODAY, for whatever reason, they cannot. If someone who loses (theft, fire, etc) their firearms, they cannot replace handguns unless they have permits on hand, and they too are not damaged. If one's FID is in the house and the house burns, one cannot purchase any firearms until the FID is replaced. By requiring someone to first acquire a permit or ID card in order to buy firearms, and this permit or card is not issued on the spot, the state has created a system which may well deprive lawful, sane citizens of the tools they wish to use for self defense. 30 days (more like 2+ months in most towns) is simply too long for the state to deny you what you need to defend yourself and your family.

NJ has a pretty horrible system. In utopia where nobody steals anything NJ's system would work great. However, in utopia we wouldn't be worried about mass shootings (or any crime, for that matter) either. Camden, Trenton, Newark, etc are all living, breathing proof that NJ's system does not work. The reason? It only prevents those prohibited persons who are NOT INCLINED TO BREAK THE LAW, buying firearms. If you don't think that anyone who wants a gun to do harm to other people can't get it in this state - any state, any country - because of its laws, you are beyond delusional.

While that would be a good idea, it is rather impractical for a building like a school. There must be multiple entrances to the building, or else people wouldn't be able to get out in case of a fire. Even if the primary entrance had such a feature, anyone with the will and tools to kill many children has the will and tools to force an emergency exit, or get in through a window. It would be prohibitively expensive to secure all possible entrances to a school in such a way. Also, it would only be practical for new constriction.

I actually used my knife at work last week to cut a stromboli in half because i couldn't find any other knives in the break room...

McVeigh wasn't a massive international terrorist.

Rayco giving bad info? Ask me if I'm suprised... It is currently unlawful for a non-ffl to possess high cap mags, therefore you can't legally modify them in nj because you cant have them. The cans however be modified out of state or by an ffl.

Why bother speculating? We will know for sure in 24 hours. There has been enough speculation pulled out of everyone's butt the past week.

You should hear that argument when it becomes "This isn't an English paper, you shouldn't be grading me on spelling/grammar/etc..." Always funny when a professor laughs at an idiot in front of the whole class. Sadly its becoming more common that its him laughing at 75% of the class and the rest of us are facepalming.

I agree, my generation is horrible. It was painful proofreading other people's papers in class... I hated my junior and senior year English teacher, until I got to college and realized that he taught me how to write. One of the best teachers I've ever had. Still hate his class though.

That reminds me, Lexington and Concord didn't happen because they British were trying to take muskets, they were trying to take cannon. So much for the 2A is for hunting rifles argument...

There are gun shows in nj?

In light of Heller, with the current composition of SCOTUS, I'm not sure sure that a ban on semi autos, or even an AWB would pass constitutional muster. Heller says that people have a right to own weapons in common use for lawful purposes.

What? I guarantee anyone without any serious physical disabilities could hold and fire that with one hand. It doesn't say fire it accurately, it says fire it.

So I lose my rights to own a firearm if a family member has a mental illness and I happen to live with them? No, not acceptable. Not acceptable. The next time there is a shooting with 20 round mags the antis will want 10 round mags, then 5 round... Armed personnel in a school is a good thing. Ideally "gun free zones" would be eliminated and CCW would be allowed everywhere. Restricting employment of "marshals" to ex LEO/Military is inappropriate. Not going to happen, SCOTUS has already ruled on it, and the government has no right restricting "obscene" speech. Protection of speech that deviates from the norm is the intent of the First Amendment. So we can have the government teaching that homosexuality/racial equality/insert "moral" dilemma here is right/wrong? No thanks. Good idea here. Public schooling today lacks any kind of personal responsibility for one's actions. On another note, can we please leave religion out of it? One does not necessarily have to be raised in a religious or faithful household in order to be a normal, law abiding person. Also, religions of all types have had more than their share of atrocities committed in their name, and in come cases with their blessing.

If its the same as the Clinton awb, which it probably is it would have had 0 effect on the outcome of Friday. Sadly we can't use logic... That's just crazy talk.

At will employment. Very limited list of things you can't be fired for, 2A isn't on that list.

I'm sorry, but I missed where the First Amendment says that we must approve of what other people say.

Who determines what is "obtainable?" Do people who can't afford $1000 fee not derserve the right? $500? $250? $100?

But unless he has Florida residency, he is violating federal law by taking possession of a handgun in a state other than his home state...

On Sheep, Wolves, and Sheepdogs The sheep are the ones who want the government to protect them. Nobody should have guns because if someone breaks into your house you call 911 and the police show up and everything is puffy white clouds and rainbow farts.