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Nice! Is it a semi auto ? Or do you have to engage the bolt in between each shot ? I don't know much about rifles I like the black stock with stainless barrel combo

Basically , how I practice at the range - I usually go for an hour . If my husband and I are sharing a port ( if it is crowded and there is a wait) I probably go through 100-150 rounds . If I am alone for the hour about 200-250 rounds. My calibers are .40 , .45 , .38 , .357 magnum . I will work on accuracy and speed with the .40 and .38s . For the .45 I am more doing 2 to center mass , one to head type drills thinking of SD. I generally end with the .357 magnums , so that I am current with them and accustomed to them as that would most likely be my HD grab gun right now. My model 60 has a 3" barrel so there is very little recreation in shooting the magnums. I would equate it to catching a high pop with no glove. Doable , but not something you want to do for the whole game. I shoot about 20 rounds of the magnums ..figuring if I can shoot 20 well , I can make 5 count without flinching if I need to ( God forbid ) I also try and catch any class by GFH that I can. They run from 250 to 500 rounds or so depending on the class. Starting to get into the idea of USPSA/IDPA matches..that could keep me busy on the weekends ..my husband and I will eventually have to alternate getting to go

Bullet Hole . They are pretty lenient as to what you can shoot there. There are shotguns and high powered rifles there all the time. It is a 23 yard range ( I think) ..I would probably only shoot a rifle there because it was new and I was dying to try it out because I was too impatient to get to a long outdoor range I shot my Ruger there for that reason..once

Yep , it is legal , but it is not ethical. And that is what the debate is about. One half saying how unethical , and the other half saying we as a society have become PC driven wusses. In a nutshell , so as not to totally derail this thread , you can photograph anything or anyone in a public area ( the only exceptions are military and other specific high security areas). If you can see it from the sidewalk or any public area , you can photograph it as long as you are not violating "perceived privacy" such as someone in their home , on their own property , in a restroom or changing room. So you can photograph someone of any age in a public place..you can also publish it for pay or for free if it is "public interest"..i.e in the local paper or magazine saying "look at the kids in the great new park the town built" . What you CAN'T do without a model release is use a persons image to advertise yourself , your business , another business , or a product using the image , or sell it purely for profit i.e in an art gallery . You need a model release for anything like that. Famous people are plagued by this. Since they , as a result of being celebrities , are deemed "of public interest" or "newsworthy" they wind up with their image or their kids images being plastered in US and People magazine , etc. Their image however STILL can't be used for self promotion. For instance , if I took some pictures of Bruce Springsteen at the Stone Pony and they were published in The Aquarian. It would be allowed because it was news. But , I would not be allowed to take those pictures , and publish them on my photography portfolio for the purpose of advertising my photography skills/business. Sorry for derailing..off to moderate my imploding photography forum now .

As has mine. There are facts and evidence pertaining to this case that I saw here first and in some cases I ONLY saw here . Like the uncut unedited 911 call. That was not widely published , but a member here posted it . Otherwise I would not have found out until today that the reported 911 call was strategically edited by the unscrupulous powers that be in the media.

lol , no not at all. Just thinking out loud really. Women's forums are brutal. They take cyber debating to a no holds barred cagefigting level. I admin a mothering forum and a child photography forum. Right now I am preparing to lock a thread about a photographer's right to photograph children in public places without the parent's permission. Women on there are practically calling each other out over it. The poor male photographer who took the pictures stated correctly that you are allowed to photograph children at a park and some of the women are calling him a pervert..one woman told him to change his screen name to something that I won't repeat here . And then other women are rushing to his defense. They are literally pulling cyber hair and cyber biting. And women never forget. They'll have one forum disagreement and never ever get along or agree on anything ever again.

Oh no way. Women are much more volatile . You want to see forum member drama ? Go to a mothering forum , pretend to be an expecting mom , and ask if you should routine circumcise your son when he arrives. Then duck and cover.

I think you did a great job. The newbies greatly outnumbered the experienced people that were helping out , yet everyone got individual attention , tips , and was safe at all times. I only have compliments . Ok , ok a big giant outdoor space heater for all the men that were cold would have been good

I don't think he is bi polar , I think he is open minded. There is nothing wrong with your opinion evolving as more facts come to light. . It's better than being stubborn and sticking to your original guns because of ego issues. Not that anyone here did that , bit it is a common human trait.

I'll see tonight if Pete will take some pictures of the gun in my hand. Maybe someone will have a suggestion . Thanks everyone , you all are very helpful as always

Yep , smallest one. It says you can shoot it with no backstrap on , but it looks all disassembled and all then. I shot it at the USPSA training on Saturday , not once did I touch the trigger when I did not mean to , but I was very aware that I had to keep my finger in a certain position ( angled up) in order to stay out of the guard. With My 1911 , Pete's CZ 75 and PX4 storm , and my revolver , it seems when you extend your trigger finger the way you are supposed to when not shooting your finger naturally wants to sit on the frame above the guard. But with this gun , pointing it straight puts if dead smack in the middle of the guard. For me at least . I'm sure anyone with grownup sized hands would not notice it as much. I'll tell you what though , I would NOT use a holster with a retention feature that requires you press a button with your index finger. Nope nope nope , not with this one. Again , I'm sure it is unique to my kid sized hands. In any event I'll be extra careful . I am always extremely vigilant about keeping out of the guard until aimed ..but I will be extra extra careful with this one.

Hmm , thought I posted on this. I took NRA First Steps , and then the next NRA after that (2nd steps?) . I took Low Light No Light one . I'm signed up for Urban Pistol one end of April and plan to continue through all the rest of the GFH courses. Love them. I also took an intro to USPSA/IDPA this past weekend with Col. Mortimer and others at Shongum . I learned a lot , was introduced to the sporting aspect of shooting , and I feel the skills you learn there ( safety , speed and accuracy) can only help no matter what kind of shooting you are interested in.

Beautiful revolver !

The fear of being rude does a lot of victims in , particularly women. This : Allen Prue had plowed Jenkins' driveway several years ago and had asked her on a date. Jenkins' friend told police she had been "uncomfortable" around Prue. When he showed up at her home last fall to offer his services, the friend told police Jenkins declined and said she would call him if she ever needed him. From this case , demonstrates that all too well. Happens all the time. Listen to your gut . http://abcnews.go.com/US/melissa-jenkins-son-mommy-cried-pulled-neck/story?id=16019048#.T3omC9UycbY

So I could put 2 other caliber barrells in my MP .40 ? Like a 9mm ? Like if I wanted to drop down to a minor caliber without buying a different gun?

As far as the media and masses go - assuming racism is at play with this case just because the kid shot is black and the guy who shot him is not , IS NO BETTER than automatically assuming a black person is "suspicious" . Both sides in this case are VERY guilty of assuming and stereotyping. Both. And when I say both "sides" I mean pro Zimmerman and pro Martin. Just to clarify.

No , the first knuckle joint of my index JUUUST passes the trigger with my hand pressed hard and high on the backstrap , nowhere close to reaching the far side of the trigger guard. My friend's 9 year old has bigger hands than I do :/

Rumor has it since they "knew " each other the officer felt comfortable trying to reason with him , trying to get his keys , etc. I am sure the LEO is real sorry he broke protocol after the fact . They had played football together , I bet the LEO was trying to keep him from getting arrested ,period. As is often the case with a lot of dangerous things/activities..familiarity can make you let your guard down. From what I heard the LEO was very traumatized.

I picked up my new M&P 40 cal Pro Series on Friday , shot it for the first time Saturday at the USPSA training . I love it , very soft push , hardly no recoil . It has the green fiber optic night sight on it. I don't know how good it is for the dark ( I hear the other type is better ) but I will say the bright green ball makes it super easy to sight up quickly in the daylight . The trigger is crisp and easy for me (it's DAO .claims to be 4 pds), I don't know much about trigger performance tolerances yet , but this is the nicest feeling one I have shot so far. Since it is the Pro Series , it has no safety except for the one on the trigger ( I don't get those..what exactly are they preventing ? Pull trigger , gun fires. I'm sure it is noob oversight but their purpose escapes me ) . Also no mag disconnect feature and no internal lock. The hole for it is there , but it is plugged up and there is no internal lock. It is the full size 5 inch barrell version and came with 3 different sized backstraps which is great as it fits my hand nicely with the small one installed. ONE issue - I have to be even extra careful with the trigger guard. I don't know if it is because it is a large trigger guard in combo with my small hands ..but I have to angle my trigger finger UP to keep it out of there . On mine and Pete's other guns it is easy for me to rest your finger in a line above the trigger guard when you are not aimed ready to shoot..but with this gun l,ike I said, I have to angle my finger up and out of the way to keep it out of there.Plus the frame is beveled in towards the midline right above the guard ..makes it even more unatural to keep that finger safely resting on the frame and out of the TG. I am pretty dilligent about never touching the trigger until aimed and ready to fire and I am confident I can continue to do so with this gun... but I can see this frame in combo with small hands being an issue with shooter that have booger hook issues to begin with . I tried gripping it higher ..I think maybe the guard that is suppose to prevent slide bite pushes my hand down the frame a bit , if that makes sense. Oh , and I had ONE light strike that day . Pffftttt. Hope it was the ammo ( Remington UMC .40 cal nickel plated ) , I heard not so great things about that ammo elsewhere. It was an off center hit too. I have the bullet still , in case pics would help anyone give me an opinion as to why this happened :/ Here are some pics of my new gun :

I'm shooting you a PM!

I got punched in the side of the head repeatedly at a red light on McCarter's highway heading towards Penn Station . I was 19 and dumb enough ( carefree enough whatever) to drive with my window open. I was driving a 1969 Pontiac Catalina ..405 ..big beast of a car. I was just sitting at the light one second , next second I am being hit hard . I punched the gas to the floor and took off . Memory is funny in these sitautions , I seem to remember the assault continuing as I drove through the red but the guy dropped off my car after a few seconds. Couldn't tell what the person looked like or anything. I don't know what would have happened if I did not punch the gas. I think I would hit the gas no matter what. With the stats on hitting someone standing 10 feet away in a stressful situation , I will take my chances the guy trying to get into my vehicle wasn't a contender on Top Shot. Not to mention the decent survival rate on actually being shot in a non vital spot. I would rather take my chances that he will A) miss B) not hit something vital Conversly , there was a guy from Kearny 20 or so odd years ago that stole his mother's car ( he was a problem from childhood on..he was a grown man when this happened and would be in his late 40s now) , his mother called KPD ..an officer got to the car at a light ..the LEO tried to take the keys , the guy rolled up the power window and took off dragging the officer. The officer shot into the car as he was being dragged and hit the driver's femoral artery and killed him. The LEO and this guy had gone to high school together. Awful situation : You can get shot and killed in your vehicle. Depends on the situation . All in all I think the deck is stacked in your situation if you try to get away , there are just no guarantees . Situational awareness , training , training , more training will put that in your toolbox.

We would be down for that.

Wow. I do keep hearing of sightings in NJ. I spent a lot of time in Mountain Lion country , did a few wilderness and OutwardBound courses. Of all the creatures you can run into they are the trickiest to deal with. Long guns are often useless since they are ambush predators. A knife in an ankle holder and/or larger bore revolver in an ankle holder is your best bet.I remember specificiall y being told a revolver was better because if they are on you may have to press the weapon right up into them. The key with Mountain Lions you do see following you is scaring them before they decide to segue from stalking to pouncing. A warning shot , acting nuts screaming and puffing out your jacket with your arms to look big , are all good strategies for dealing with the ones you see.Whatever you do , don't run . Add that to my list of reasons to CC in NJ , if Mountain Lions are going to be in the woods where I like to hike with my dogs and kids.

Looks like we don't have a sitter. Some B.S about a cadet brother's graduation and it being Easter weekend , thus a family weekend. These kids these days have their priorities screwed up ! lol Does anyone's wife want to make some extra money and sit in the clubhouse with the baby for 4 hours ? Kidding..kind of.

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