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im saying i don think it matters what party he is...or if he signs or vetos.....as the big gun states...montana wyoming etc have little pull with low single digit electoral votes...and libertard centers..like kalifornia an ny have way more.....as much as i wish you guys were right...i doubt it will play little into the minds of politicians as they pass these bills....to them its the "sensible right thing to do" for our own good....and we are "too dumb to know whats right"

hmmm...not sure why ..it works when i click it...try now

i beg to differ......its sad but this map pretty much sums up the story of why he wont veto....... http://www.270towin.com/

I'm not really that familiar with the nj based groups... While they may be great guys and are trying... Do they actually have the connections etc to effect change? Or More or less like us standing in front of the courthouse the politicians inside laughed us off and did what they wanted anyway?.....have they actually made any headway on any fronts? I'm honestly asking as I don't know..... The only thing I've really heard was on here about a lawsuit to do with a bb gun or something ... And it lost.... In my opinion nj is so screwed up that it will take a huge amount of money/buying politician/lobbying to even hold position... Much less gain ground....that's why the NRA needs to circle up the wagons and do something !

The over round count mag is something not worth rolling the dice with to me....but ymmv

I guess the feeling of abandonment comes from seeing/reading of victories around the country....dc il just as a couple examples...all the while people in nj are bleeding themselves in joining donating additional money via contributions etc and a litany Of ridulous laws (in the past also) are being rammed up us...with no return on the hundreds of thousands in monies if not more coming out of desperate Nj gun owners looking for help.... And the response? They don't want to "waste their money in nj.. It's a lost cause".....they sure don't return the checks sent from jersey though... And why couldnt they pull a few off the other 47 states that aren't being screwed and focus on the 3 that are for a bit.... Since the local orgs aren't making progress .....

A friend in nj has a nh permit and is wondering if its just for new apps and current permit holders renewals will be "grandfathered" to the old rules and the expiring permit photocopy will be allowable... Or is it the same for new/renewing.....know pa had stopped issuing to nj but were renewing current license holders

not to mention another big plus you can "form" 300blk cases from 223 brass if you reload....

not sure if you ever are in de...but theres a couple places near in the north east portion of the state that usually have it in stock....and i saw it at dunklebergers a week or so ago....ive used 4198 ..and lil gun with decent results if you come across that....

hahaha that show was funny....when he confronted the guys...and asked what they were doing there...and the stupid responses were priceless..."just stopping over to see my friend and have iced tea ".....hed be like "so you drove 3 hrs for ice tea?...youre 50 and you are friends with this 11 yo boy?...so why the bag full of condoms and alcohol?"...lol sickos

use that expression cautiously....lol

Even in a Free state, I hope you would not use it on this one: not unless youre with dnr...(bad joke)...great pics though!

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agree with blf...the ksg feels more streamlined and i prefer the tube location/bottom loading over the larger bulkier uts..and the little doors on the tubes on the uts seem like something that will break off/possibly cause an issue at the worst possible time

Not per se....I guess it was a bad comparison but it was the first thing I thought of lol .... More so that the people assigned to protect/look out for best interests of ..... Would simply "raid" and euthanize a healthy fawn that had been found and was being cared for until it could be turned over to the wildlife place mentioned.....

That deer story is really Effed up..... The dnr people killed the deer.. Wtf?! ....that's some messed up stuff ...it'd be like dyfs coming in and grabbing a young child that was being well cared for and not being mistreated and euthanized them put them in a body bag and threw them over their shoulders and marched off like good little storm troopers .......and people wonder why there is this anti govt/agents of gvt sentiment ?....

the last couple times ive been up to the cabelas in hamburg within the last 3 weeks....seem to have a decent selection of ammo of pistol/rifle/sg/22....

im ok with an accurate description of the weapon as long as they provide one of the perp as well....alot of newspapers dont want to "upset any groups" and will describe the same suspect as...25-40 male dark shirt and dark pants...

but i have to ask....when the system is going in the more law less rights direction...what did it take a couple months to get this horsecrap signed into law?...now...how many years does it take to get it before and a decision from the supreme court?....its as with everything else in govt...loaded with "guidelines and proper channels and timelines etc"...when its in the interest of the people getting their rights back.......but when its about taking/denying rights its rapid paced..do whatever it takes legal or otherwise( like jump bills to different non relevant commitees mid vote when they see it not passing) how many people will be denied a right based on a super duper top secret nobody can know who or why the people are on it list ...and if im not mistaken i also understand that being denied essentially makes you a person prohibited from owning/possessing firearms?......and how many years/how much money will it take to battle the government in court.....id say the average citizen (studies say most are 4 paychecks from the curb) will run out of legal funds far before the govt.......how convient a new way to deny people and not have to justify because its "top secret" and cant be spoken of..........guess the christy online armchair political analysts were wrong.....

agreed i didnt mean to be a jerk to you sgt....it was more a general statement ...but this is very similiar to the gun bs going on ..to me anyway...in the b/w violence situations....the al sharptons whip up the racial hate...with half(or less)truths about events...and the liberal "white guilt" grows exponentially and the riots etc but when it is a clearly animal attack in the other direction....like this or that (eek dare i say) black woman who burnt the white 12 yo on xmas to death(?) with the propane torch...where is the outcry for justice?...nowhere...we are to keep our mouths shut and keep it moving ...be the "bigger person"..... just like the gun laws...they cram it down our throats...laws devoid of logic or actual possibility that it will solve the problems..etc etc(preaching to choir) with the sham/kangaroo hearings/meetings to create the facade of "listening to the people" and still being representitives of us in a democracy....and we are again to be "the bigger people" and "win them over with kindness"..."show them through sternlywritten emails"(that an intern deletes dailywith it never going past "oh another gun nut letter") that "we will not stand for this"....well lets see....they keep passing ...and we keep losing...and they keep passing more....it seems we lose on all fronts with the soft kitten gloves tactics......for fear that showing passion and conviction and a willingness to not take it any more might upset their delicate dispositions all the armchair quarterback discussions of christys mindset etc is at this point comical...that people still believe that every single stupid do nothing bill will not be rammed up our...... i mean its great to have "hope"...but at what point do people realize the ship has sunk?......

seems to me stating fact isnt being racist....three older black kids beat the hell out of a white kid....but i guess when the newspaper reports crimes and the descriptions of suspects to be on the lookout for omit race ie: "the suspect is described as a male 25-40 last seen wearing a white tshirt and dark pants..police ask if you see this suspect to call the tip line..." thats the mindset people begin to adopt..."ohh dont mention skin color"....psft...so tired of all the over the top political correctness ....

"Again, Governor Christie has chosen not to act on this issue".... Keyword "yet" is missing.... 10 of 15 signed....after a dramatic long pause/wait to give the appearance of thoughtfully reviewing and considering...saving the bigger ones for closer to the election/deadline..... But all will be signed....

or if the rules were allowed to take effect...and he kept them regardless of illegal rule and he went hunting or utilized his resident state issued ccw license and some maig/anti gun "nut" saw him taking them to or from vehicle and turned him in to the manager....so he would have to sneak them in and out etc....just ridiculous.....

not sure if you guys had heard about this...i know its not nj.....but its pretty messed up....the guy intervied is a marine vet...and has a ccw license but yet they tell him(as well as everyone else there) it all has to go...essentially current residents homes are now gun free zones...and thats not against the law?.....look at the hand written note on the bottom of the letter he shows that he recieved in the video......the question keeps popping up on here "where will it end?".....its becoming more and more clear to all but the ostriches.....people better wake up! http://www.9news.com/rss/story.aspx?storyid=348974 edit: it seems the attempt was stopped....as blake said good to see a happy ending (for a change)!

The problem is it won't... All the letter writing and phone calls and look where we are today.... Look where we were after the hearings....it's like a wound that was not tended to early on and now with sepsis trying to treat it with baby aspirin