DaddyNick

FEMALE associates. lol

I hear ya. and you're right. theres just a few things that bother me and it just rubbed me the wrong way. honestly regardless of what he had said I would not have bought a firearm from that particular individual. as already said they have youth in that store and im all for the youth being involved but they certainly lacked the knowledge or at least sounded like it. first impressions are big and based on reading what is said here in this post they are striking out. I have to go past that store to get the Tips on rt9...so im sure i'll stop in there but may go there after I go to Tips. Nick

Been there twice. once during hunting season (deer) I was surprised at how much carhart clothing they had but literally no blaze orange clothing. I was shocked by that. they only orange I saw was a few of those elastic vests you can put over your jacket. 2nd time I too had buy some T/C maxi balls. they had the hard to find(for me) smaller grained version (275gr) that shoots awesome in my white mountain carbine. I forget what I paid. I heard a younger guy behind the counter call a shotgun a "shotty"....huh? sorry.. not that I was going to buy a shotgun but if I was I would not have done so with a guy who calls a shotgun a shotty. Nick

don't rule out an Ithaca or browning bps pump gun. they make them in 20gauge and they are bottom ejecting. Nick

damn. glad your okay. Nick

very cool. Nick

something with synthetic stock. 26-28" barrel. handle a few to see what feels good to YOU in YOUR hands. I prefer Mossberg gun b/c the safety is on top where I can engage it with my thumb. just a matter of what feels good for you. Nick

as already stated I prefer the safety location on the Mossberg 500. I grew up huntin rabbits & pheasant with a 500 so im quicker with that than I am with my 870. and If I were dedicate a shotgun for HOME defense it would be a 20 gauge. smaller framed gun, for me is quicker handling. #2 or #3 20ga buckshot is badazz on targets inside 50'. recoil would be less so that would be a plus as well. Nick

/\ nice offer.

Have you checked out Telco? its probably the closest to me( im a mile from the 70/73 intersection) and I have a friend who lives down the street from there. Nick

welcome to the site. im in marlton as well. no home range as off yet. I just usually head to one of the free wma ranges in this wondefful state. just to sight in my guns for the hunting season. Nick

just remember...powder goes in before the bullet. !

nice gun. good luck with it. Nick

what will be your primary use? self defense? hunting? how much penetration do you want and at what range do you want maximum penetration? rifled slugs are big enough! lol! if you want the most wallop at impact on intended target i'd look at lightfields and brennekes.

WOW! im jealous! Nick

happy! happy! happy!

late to the party but take a look at the 300 wsm (already mentioned) and the 270 WSM. on paper they are nice.

good to see others who want to get involved. always refreshing. Im a ways north of you but you can always reach out to people. PM me any questions you may have. Or post them here. no such thing as a stupid question. I don't goose hunt. sorry. mainly deer and turkey. you can learn from an patient hunter but YOU have to have patience. not saying you don't. them more time you spend IN THE WOODS the more you will learn. as for deer hunting. keep the wind in your favor meaning blowing towards you. you can fool a deer's eyes and his ears but you cannot fool his nose. good luck this season. Nick

I wish they had a season down south here. not that we have a good amount anyway. but can always dream . lol. be careful with the baiting thing I think its illegal hunt bear over bait. the couple guys I talked to said it depends on the weather. if it gets cold fast they may den up before the gun season. down here everything is flat but up there I would assume the bears would be near dens,caves, etc and stayin low key (to hunting pressure). as for your area/your property. I assume it wouldnt hurt to start baitin them now for them to get a routine. down here the deer are in the corn(private). once its cut they head for the swamps/thick stuff(public). maybe the bears up there do something similar. find an acorn flat NOW. once crops are cut in the fall that's where they will be. best of luck to ya. Nick

give me a stainless 20ga pump with mobile chokes. extended tube. it would do it all. birdshot for small game, BB and buckshot for self defense. buckshot for deer. slugs for deer or zombies . 20ga frame will be lighter than a 12ga. a box of 20ga shells is a 1/4-1/2lb lighter than same box in 12ga. it matters when carrying a lot of gear. you can buy aftermarket rifle sights for when using the slugs. or put a scope or aimpoint type sight on it. I LOVE SxS guns and how they handle when hunting but for ultimate survival? NOPE. Nick

very nice. yea im always lookin for a 20 or a 16. Nick

all good info above. there #1 sense is there sense of smell. you can fool his eyes, you can fool his ears. you will not fool his nose. he will circle downwind of the source of noise. he will try to smell it before he trys to look for it. wind in your face, put your caller/decoy well ahead of you....40-50 yards. hopefully he walks into your lap. Nick

welcome to the site. im over in marlton. were neighbors. lol

as already hammered down here. you just have to try all models listed. I prefer the safety position of the Mossberg. I like the forend grip on the 870. you already stated you tried the pistol grip shotty so that's good otherwise i'd steer you away from that initially. I've seen more than a few guys lose control of the grip on the gun when firing it. saw a guy have the gun jump up and smack him in the face he got 7 stitches above his lip. lol! there's a ton of aftermarket parts for the 870 and the 500 so i'd stay in that direction. will say that the benellis are NICE. call around the gun shops and see what they have on there USED racks. you may find a gem for a good price and you can build it the way YOU want it.

I believe the rifle permit class is shorter. maybe 1 day in class and 1 day in the field. they basically want to see you SAFELY load a muzzy.