Dr_Rambow

Double post, please delete.

Ok, so I know Handguns are handguns regardless of the federal definition of a firearm. This is easily found in the law and that is not what I am asking. I am interested in where (if) antique longarms are defined in any way in NJ other than the federal definition: I have only found: This would make it seem that they are excluded from even the FPID. So Why do Gun shops demand that these be transferred? P.S. I have happily paid to transfer long arms from auction sites to ship to a NJ FFL where I can pick them up. I have just never seen where it is clarified that (or if) antique long arms must undergo this same process.

OK, so let me start off by saying that this is not in NJ nor will it ever come to NJ (almost exclusively in PA). I will also state that the weapon (WWI era C&R) in question would be used in conjunction with a historical, educational non-profit organization that has no intention whatsoever with having it re-activated. I don't have the money to buy the thing so I couldn't bring it home if I wanted to! Now that all of that is out of the way... Can someone shed some light on what the status of an official BATFE Registered Unserviceable machine gun is? How is its use and transportation regulated, etc? I volunteer at a museum and we have been wanting something like this for a display at the museum and and when we travel. I've read a lot of the legislature and discussion and I feel like I keep getting sent round and round from the full blown live class III discussion to reactivation back to the unserviceable status and can't seem to find answers about when you DON'T want a live machine gun but just a piece of metal to show off. Is it legally a non-gun; is it just a Class III without a tax stamp, or is it something in between? Just looking for some clarification. Thanks!

Thanks guys! After looking around for local shops, I figure Bangers is worth a shot. Next time I head down that way, I'll stop in. Clintoon Eastwood, My brother lives just north of Lake George, not quite the trek out to Rochester, but beautiful as can be and about 20 degrees cooler then ol' NJ.

So I've been waiting to take a few of my new (to me) rifles out to a range. Finally scheduled a vacation to (WAY) upstate NY to a place where my brother has a place to shoot. I figure I should pick up some ammo and remembered the glowing reviews for Arms and Ammo (which is a quick jaunt down the White Horse Pike from me). Well, I just now find out that they are going out of business. Great... So my question for the kind folks of the forum is this; where would you recommend picking up Ammo? Online stores or brick and mortar, it doesn't particularly matter as long as the price is fair and the service reliable. I am most deficient in the .30-06 category. I'm a WWI enthusiast, so I'm going to be bringing my '03 Springfield and a 1917 Eddystone along. Don't need too much, might go for a couple hundred rounds (which should last me a while at the rate I go to ranges). I might also pick up a few boxes of .22lr and 12ga. as well. Thanks folks! P.S. I tried to search for a 30-06 price reference here, but came up empty. Please let me know if there is an existing thread.

I can't attend the auction in person, I was planning on previewing (at which time I can sort out the details of buying them) and leaving some absentee bids. I wouldn't be able to pick them up until later anyway, so it works out.

I don't kiss and tell about items I intend on buying. I lost an incredible experimental helmet from WWI because I posted it on a forum and people found it and outbid me. The auction house appraised it at $50 but it ended up going for over $1500 after the buyers fee. It could have been mine!!! It haunts me to this day. Anyway, thank you for the good news. I am very tired of jumping through the hoops of this state, it's nice not needing to worry. I'll print a few COEs to take with me and call it a day.

Ok, so I know I've looked this up before but I can't seem to find the answer again. Is it legal to purchase long arms in PA and bring them back to NJ with no additional hoops to jump through (provided the long arms are not banned or otherwise questionable)? I'm going to a live auction next week (I've been looking for a half decent WWI '03 Springfield) and before I get my hopes up about anything I wanted to make sure if I need to do any FFL transfers or other such nonsense. I know about taking guns from NJ into other states, but not so much with bringing them in. Thanks, -Todd

I picked this up at the flea market today thinking it was a beat up interwar Steyr, little did I know that this was quite a lot older and not quite as worthless. From what I can gather from some online sources, this is not the usual South American contract piece. It has an arsenal acceptance stamp on the barrel and it lacks the usual "II" in the serial associated with export models. While I am hoping that this might be a Austrian used-and-abused model, I don't know what all the markings represent, especially the "B:" at the end of the serial. Only issue is that one of the sling loops is broken and the screw on the center barrel clamp (not sure what that is called actually) is broken as well. Otherwise the condition isn't as bad as I thought, the rust I thought was present turned out to be 120 year old crud that scraped off with little resistance. Bolt isn't too bad at all (at least from my inexperienced perspective). I can only find the one serial on the barrel and possible serial on the stock. Is there anywhere else I should hunt for a serial? Barrel/receiver: WHOLE lot of stuff under the adjustable sight. I took it off to get some pictures. No way of telling what those all mean? In front and back of trigger/magazine: Markings on butt:

Whew, that's great then. Thanks for the info. I don't have too many worth taking so I was afraid I would be stuck with next to nothing.

Do the same definitions for high capacity (in this case 10 rounds) apply? I have a tube fed semi-auto .22 with a 15 round capacity and that would fall into this category, yes?

I'm planning on going shooting with my brother when I visit him. He lives WAY upstate, like north of Lake George, an hour from Canada upstate. Anyway, what can I bring up to play with? I figured pistols were a no-go, but I'm not actually sure since we do not even get close to NYC when we hit NY state. I've only got some .22s and shotguns anyway, but I want to be sure before I do anything. Thanks guys

That's kinda what I thought, Thanks!

My brother (who lives in upstate new york) is getting married and has expressed a desire to get a firearm. My uncle recently passed and I took ownership of several guns (well I will, waiting on the State for multiple pistol permit exemption). Anyway, assuming everything is squared away by then, could I transport and give him (for example) a .22 rifle without any additional paper work? Or at this point would he need to work it out with NY state law to "purchase" it from me? I told him a pistol wasn't going to happen, so I'm not worried about that. Thanks folks!

Good to know the squeaky wheel method works at our PD. I might check in with them to make sure they got my reference's info back.

Good lord. There are 6 handguns and 10 other rifles/shotguns that I'm "inheriting" from my late uncle (more like getting out of the hair of the family since no one else wants to deal with them). I suppose I should be happy if I have everything in my name by this time next year... That's really depressing.

Colnar, how long did it take you to get your FID after your references replied? I'm in the same town and want to get a good idea of how much longer I have to wait.

I'm getting my FPIC because I'm inheriting guns, but I'm not gonna lie; we've been thinking about getting some "protection" recently because of the nature of the town. We aren't in a particularly bad area, but things tend to overflow from those apartments from time to time. Sometimes I don't believe the things that we hear going on, and we live here! Still looking for a good range for when I can shoot the guns I'm getting, I'd love to go shooting with some local folks when my paperwork comes back (in a few months).

I'm another new member from Lindenwold. Glad to know I'm not the only one from this sketchy town hanging out in the forum. lol.

Point taken, duly noted. Again, I should side with safety, because you never know these days. My father knows a guy who can help us out, that way we don't even have to get a dealer involved. Works for me. Thanks! Everyone here has been a real help.

Thanks guys, I'll be playing it safe for now. I'm going to be headed over tomorrow (Wednesday) afternoon to get pictures, serial numbers, etc from everything. That and I'll be handing in my FPIC application, so wish me luck (and rapid processing). I suppose I should take the time to ask the opinion of my local PD what they think of the whole situation while I'm at it.

vtecpaoche: Thanks for the extra thoughts. That certainly is a possibility if a problem arises. I had been planing to get my FID for a while now, but my other family members (who may be interested in some of the guns), might want to go that route if need be. halbautomatisch: Thank you very much for answering everything. My family and I certainly appreciate it. In the case of question 1, would she be able to store these firearms at another household if she consents to their presence there? The family wants to get them out of her house since some of her younger grandchildren are moving in with their parents (very) soon. I'm afraid my FID may take quite a while and I don't want anyone to have to worry about them being in the house if we can get them out without legal worries. Thanks again everyone, -Todd

Malsua: Great, didn't think so. Just wanted to be sure. Dan: That may be an option while I wait for my FID, if for nothing else we can get information. Yes, a few of us are interested in getting some firearms; we didn't think it'd be like this but we are interested none the less. Thanks for the replies folks.

One more question, does the person (probably my grandmother) "selling" the firearm (the "transferor"), need a FID too? There is a spot for it on the Certificate of eligibility, but it isn't clear if it is absolutely necessary.

Thank you for the information. By the time I get my FID we should have that issue sorted out. Yes, everything is in NJ