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Here's an old post but it explains the whole wet tumbler setup: Some real grungy brass turned to Bling

So I made my way into Garden State yesterday -- Disappointed right from the start One of the 1st things the guy says to me -- Anything you want to see? Just let me see your FID -- I said "WHY do you need my FID for me to see a gun" His reply -- "It's the law" -- I said, Maybe it's your policy but it's not a state law -- He just said to me "OK" and we stopped talking about it No I didn't get to fondle anything and honestly there wasn't much I wanted to fondle anyway -- They where very friendly after our initial FID issue Transfers are $50 plus $15 Nics -- Sign didn't mention sales tax but I would bet it's an add on too They had a small selection of cast lead bullets -- not coated but cast with a lube ring -- Winchester primers at $34.99 per 1000 I believe -- No powder I could see Small selection of dillon stuff -- definitely call ahead if you're looking for something specific Also small selection of ammo but being a reloader I rarely pay attention to ammo prices and I didn't at all this time If you're around, stop in certainly friendly enough -- just remember your FID if you actually want to touch anything

I wonder if what you're using is small enough -- I never had and media actually get stuck inside of .223 brass -- flash holes --yes -- but not actual bridging inside of brass -- Been at it for 24 years I switched to wet and stainless media over a year ago -- I'll never go back to dry tumbling

Any Petsmart will have it on the shelves -- Lizard litter or something like that -- It's used to line the bottom of reptile cages

I got a good chuckle -- I can so relate to this

Chase the threaded stem with a Die and clean it up -- Where are you? If you don't have a tap and die set and are close to me I'll do it for you -- -- I'm in Middlesex Borough --- zip is 08846 I would bet you can replace the stem too -- probably have to take the machine apart a little... Jer

He refused to meet face to face to deliver product -- why bother he won't show

You might be able to get the days pay and your travel expenses covered -- Certainly worth contacting the insurance company or attorney and stating you have a real hard time losing a days pay -- Has your employment status changed since you where witness 2 years ago? If you are the key to the case they should be happy to compensate you for your expenses --

Has anyone tried to contact Egg Harbor PD? -- Does anyone have the time to do it tomorrow? I would certainly participate in a group filing thru his local PD but I can't arrange it right now -- Anyone retired or have some free time this week?

I've been in contact with square -- they are useless -- can't even find the original transaction David here said he got as far as square saying the refunds where not processed due to lack of funding The brief discussion I had with Ryan Friday I did mention square doesn't have refund money -- he did not deny You need to file a dispute with your cc co -- send them a link to the other thread as evidence -- its the only way to get your money back -- don't wait too long -- there MAY be evidence of bankruptcy coming --

I did fill out the dispute form online yesterday early -- dispute resolution did call but I was unable to answer -- I've been trying to call them back since -- Ryan tried to tell me the process today, over the phone, of course he left out the part about charges I've never needed to file a dispute ever -- its all new to me so I'm learning as I go along

That series 80 firing pin block doesn't bother me -- I have a 80 series colt combat elite that had the trigger done by Joe K in perth amboy back in the late 80's -- It is still to this day the best 1911 trigger I have ever pulled As for kimber -- I never put as much weight into aesthetics as Kimber does -- How a gun looks doesn't matter to me -- I'd rather have that money put into quality parts/fitting They sure are pretty

Multiple phone calls this morning from Ryan -- TO LATE FOR ME -- He's nervous about the charges coming and is the only reason he called Unfortunately I can't talk to him because I don't believe a word that comes out of his mouth -- He's proved himself as a liar To me, the lowest of a low in a mans life is when no one believes you -- Ryan your word means nothing to me and I gave you plenty of chances Please do not call me again -- If you wish to contact me please do so thru PM's on this forum - All correspondence between us will be documented and I will not talk to you on the phone You did this to yourself -- time to pay the piper

Thanks for the offer but I was really only jumping on the deal itself -- wasn't really looking for an optic but saw a deal that seemed "too good to pass up" -- This changes nothing for me on the forum -- Lots of good people here -- I will jump in on another "group buy" when it's something I feel a good deal -- I buy lots of things I don't really need -- This won't stop Maksim -- Thank you for the support -- I doubt Ryan has the nuts to call you I did get 1 PM from another party involved -- we exchanged info -- Like Blue line says -- together as 1 charge with 7 victims this is real money with the potential for real penalties for Ryan --not just a slap on the wrist

I get this part and I've been as patient as ever waiting for money to be refunded -- The point is... this guy is scum -- he wants the CC companies to refund each of us --this way he doesn't have to No CC co is going to waste their time on less than $500 -- it'll cost them more to take ryan to court What High Exposure says does hold some weight -- I don't want this forum altered in any way from this experience -- well maybe if the marketplace went to to the old format Anyway -- My local PD detective is a good friend of mine -- I haven't even told him about this yet -- didn't want it to be a bother -- he's got more important things to do I do know, when I do involve him, everything will be in a folder -- made as easy as I can for him -- cause I know that he's gonna go all out once he's involved I'm not sure what would be better -- 7 different charges from 7 different municipalities or 1 charge from EHT with 7 different victims -- 1 charge was my initial thought but Jon implied that we had to file with our hometown We should probably exchange emails or phone numbers between all of us and keep in touch -- Privately -- I'll be putting my folder together this weekend -- Ryan -- Time is up

Yea -- It's getting time to gather evidence for the Police -- Appreciate you locking the thread I actually made contact with Square -- They are looking into my refund and to see if it actually exists I did also contact my CC company and start a dispute -- They seem to be interested in the thread as well Thanks for locking the original thread, Unfortunately it looks like we are going to need the info there --Unaltered

Barms -- what kind of hearing protection did you get? Fitted custom made plugs? I'm ready to get away from foam plugs and muffs are too hot and get irritating with glasses for me -- plus I need a hat to protect my dome from burning

$449 plus $7 for shipping in 2 separate payments

How about a simple snapshot of the invoice showing the product? How about the tracking # showing the package going back to the supplier? You did save that for your records -- Right?? We've given you plenty of options -- You just avoid them all

I agree -- Enough lies -- Time for proof It comes out now or it comes out later -- later will be much harder Can't you see We're really trying to give you the benefit of the doubt -- but you just won't take the opportunity to prove yourself right

So this statement says you have them -- Correct Take a picture of the sights and magnifiers and post it -- I know you can do it -- All this ends and we impatiently wait for our refunds Or have they conveniently been "Shipped back to my supplier" -- I then say how? Post a tracking # so we can check on the package to see if it actually existed -- and all this ends... You took it upon yourself to give me a refund -- I asked for the product -- not a refund -- If I was getting a refund I wanted interest on a loan cause thats what it seems I gave you

Will do -- All of us should be on the same page too

The sad part is still no explanation -- Ryan where there ever any sights? No real answer to this is what makes me want to file charges and screw up your world some -- Sure looks like it was a scam from the beginning but I do find it hard to believe someone would do this on a public forum -- especially after talking to you on the phone Can you imagine the fallout when subpoenas hit your work -- cause they are involved in this too -- 7 counts of theft by deception then there's the part where we get our money back and then some with the 7 counts of consumer fraud So Ryan, What happened?

Wouldn't checking the account online do the same thing? There are pending charges from the weekend but no refund pending...

I'm starting to think we are getting another screwing... squareup.com/market/kreeper-tactical ---- Sorry we cannot find that business It's been 10 days since the refund email -- Nothing since -- No CC action -- and it seems no more kreeper tactical account on Square Wednesday I call the CC -- Friday I file criminal charges -- It's been plenty long and I'm tired of this turd having my money