Rysdad

In Gloucester City I have been waiting for just short of 11 weeks. I have been told it will be signed early next week.

I should be receiving my nickel plated CZ75B next week. I can't wait. Bought it from Damascus in Virginia. $509.00

Go to Bobs guns in Norfolk. I held a brand new CZ85 B the other day. it was dressed in black and very nice. They may have some on their website also

Jules, I want to know which of the states you are talking about when you said "purchased legally in states that have zero laws about buying weapons". I know of no such state, when it applies to a concealable weapon anyway. Please educate me so I can go there and get a CZ compact.

ok. when you have a criminal that gets his gun in Camden on the street how do you know? HE is the one you need to be worried or concerned about. His gun will not show up in any registry. This process we are talking about does not affect him. You do NOT have to worry about me, the law abiding citizen. It is a simple fact. You or any other cop has never been attacked or endangered by a "law abiding citizen". Most people on the antigun side are dillusional about what their rules are creating. ALl the others are just idealogues.

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Thanks, that naivety comment got to you huh? didn't mean anything personal by it. Have a good night. I am off to bed.

Jules, how do you feel about gun registries? I happen to feel that no LEA should ever be able to look in their files and see that I, a law abiding citizen, own a handgun. I also feel that my right to bear arms should not be inringed. All this stuff we are talking about is infringing on my rights. I will never accept even what you consider a little thing if it goes in the direction of infringing on my rights. Don't you agree with me?

Phew, for a minute there I thought you really were insane. Good to know you aren't.

I agree with what you said about 95%. The only mistake was when you said "Blame it on the politicians they created the rules, the PD's just follow them." This whole thread is about the PD not following the rules. I do agree that the politicians carry most of the blame.

This president? Are you joking?

No money = no lawyer = no lawsuit = forced to accept the 9 or 20 week wait cause by fools and criminals that pretend to represent us.

Well we can beat this horse to death over and over. I concede that for him alone the better path would be to just bend over for the criminal PD in this case and get his gun. I have to say: This is not the way this country is supposed to be. The PD are just as guilty as a HR manager that doesn't hire minorities because he doesn't like them, of the guy that fires his secratary because she won't service him. They are Breaking the law and there is no argument about that. This sometime HAS to stop. It pisses me off and I just cant believe there is no recourse for us lowly folks that just want to excersize our rights. I'm done.

Jules, you may be right. I was forming my argument on the assumption that what was posted actually happened.

Specopscout, you missed my point. You said "get yours, then get payback." What is his payback after he gets his? NOTHING! The PD gets to totally control the situation on its terms and sure, he may get his permit after some time if he capitulates, but there is NO payback. Oh by the way. I do not have my permits yet. I submitted exactly what is required by law and what was requested by my PD, no more or less. I would like to think if my PD had required that I give more I would have stood up to them. I did inform them that they had violated the 30 day rule when 30 days had passed. I was laughed at.

OK, I can get down with that. As an officer of the law how would you actually propose that be done? Should we get our permits and then call the chief once a week and demand that the process be changed? Write our state politicians? Seriously Jules, how should we do that?

... Ok, say a law abiding gun owner wannabe does what is asked. He bends over for the PD, fills out all the extra forms, submits to all cavity searches and finally after 12 or 20 weeks he gets his permits... Are you now proposing that he can sue? what are his damages? He received what he asked for. Please don't be so naive. They know full well they have you by the balls if you let them. So I say don't let them. Unless of course you are one of them and maybe agree with them.

Sorry Jules, but you just Don't understand the argument.

Welcome

Welcome Ron, I am not too far away in Gloucester. I am planning to get to hagues to check it out soon. Maybe see ya there!

Damn, I originally come from Mass and have no idea what planet you jersey folks came from. Even in the liberal bastion of Massachusetts this crap doesn't happen. Some of you people are actually advocating the total disregard of the law so that you can maybe get your gun. If everyone stood up to these asshole cops and said how they felt maybe some things would change around here. Instead we are all being slowly assimilated and are following our fellow lemmings off the proverbial cliff. Screw this!. I am doing the brave thing and moving to Virginia.

I just held a CZ 85 (black) in 9mm yesterday at Bobs Guns in Norfolk. Good choice.

In Gloucester City there have been multiple daytime breakins lately. We are not in town where they occurred but not far away either. I will feel much better once my permits come in. Local detective told me it would be within the next week or so. I have heard that before though.

I don't see a CZ 75 B on that list. Why?

CZ 75 D PCR 9mm