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Thanks for the replies guys. Yea I definitely want to check out the MilSpec and the Auto Ord and woulnt mind seeing a Colt (i like the series 70 and 80) also but it seems that most of the shops I've been to at least mostly have target or custom stuff. It seems I will most likely end up having to buy it online and shipped but want to get my hands on a few of the ones I havent seen yet. mcbethr, thanks for the offer and I may take you up on that when I get a chance. Thanks! Thanks again guys for the input. My buddy is coming down and wants to go shoot off some rounds saturday so may call the local shops and see what they have. -Rich

Hey guys.. Well first off let me say that i hope everyone is safe and trying to get back to somewhat normal after the storm and am keeping anyone who needs it in my thoughts.. Now, I have two pistol permits that need to be used and I'm thinking of getting a 1911 with one and possibly a Beretta 92 with the other. I know regarding 1911's there are thousands of options and I dont want this to become a shouting match. I am basically looking for a 1911 for fun at the range and in the woods and maybe home defense if needed. I DO NOT plan on using it for any big time competitions or anything. That being said, I dont really like the looks of the customs and 2tone guns (to each his own) and really like the classic or as close to original as possible. The first thing that comes to mind is the Springfield Mil-Spec. I have heard good things about the Rock Island also but I would probably prefer the Springer between those two. I am looking to stay around 4-700 range. I saw the range officer but dont like the target sights (I prefer the 3 dot combat sights). So anything else I should check out? The other issue is locating one. I know Para, Remmy and Auto Ord have 1911s close to the original and I know a lot of the shops carry 1911s galore but does anyone know any place that carries either used 1911s or these GI type models? Ideally I'd like to compare a few at one location. I will start calling places but figured I'd throw it out there. I am in Monmouth County. Thanks again guys! -Rich

yea, knew that was coming.. i figured for an emergency services officer he would have to have it on all the time

I cant agree more with you guys.. while I know that not every officer is 100% right or perfect I sure as hell give them respect (especially in the jungles of NYC) for day in and out going up to cars with no idea whose in it and it seems like stuff like this is happening more and more.. Cops are like everyone else they want to go home to their family everyday too..I agree he should have had his vest but who knows the details.. The Russian kid from the NYPD that was killed a few years ago had his vest on and was shot in the head so you never know.. Then murdering a civilian in cold blood for his car! come on really? THAT is what deserves public execution. But the sheep that we are we cant carry in the car to defend ourselves so guys like this can do as they please.. The courts are a friggin joke to let someone like this out and now he'll enjoy his lifetime all inclusive free vacation. We need to make examples of people like this i cant even fathom how a lawyer or anyone could defend somone like this. The scumbags survive and its the hardworking people that suffer. RIP -Rich

Sorry guys just felt the need to put this up there cuz it really makes me sick.. People love to put down the police all the time but damnit if I was pulling these animals over I'd have my gun out everytime. And this scumbag killed an innocent motorist!? Wtf. If this was 5 months ago I would have been on the Cross island right at that spot driving to work (I just moved to NJ from that area). And Nassau County just lost a cop last week. Sick F**** people.. Why people like this get to live is beyond me (and he had been in jail for attempted murder in 2004!?) WTF is wrong with the stupid liberal govt here.. Sorry just need to vent my frustration as it makes me sick http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/parkway_accident_fatally_shot_while_7Dn0afyRn9Ylv3ZakZy4FL -Rich

Sounds good.. Thanks! and please do if your in the area -Rich

Thanks! Yea I havent been able to stop looking at it or talking about it and smiling haha. I just saw your 357 pictures, looks great! Thanks I appreciate the offer and if I'm ever up in the area I'll let you know and bring the 627 with me for youre enjoyment as well.

Beautiful 686! Not sure if you saw my post, but I just got my permits the other day and went to check out a 686 and they had a talo edition (had wood grips on it that were very nice also) and my decision was between that and the 627 that I ended up getting.. tough decision but with my big hands the bigger frame won out.. but congrats! beautiful gun and I will most likely get a shorter barrel 686 similar to yours at some point. Enjoy! -Rich

yea, my short list to check out was the range officer, kimber and remington and possibly colt if the price isnt too much.. i ended up spending a little more on the 357 then i wanted but it was well worth it.. and i love 1911s so i will have more than 1 so maybe one a little cheaper (remington) may be better for me at the moment.. we shall see!

Thanks for the reply.. yea i have a lot of research and trips to make in regards to the 1911. Congrats on your purchase too! What did you get the 686? Heres the beauty..

Oops sorry accidentally hit post. Anyway shore shot was a very nice place and everyone was nice and helpful. Now for the fun. As I said I will wait to do some more research fot my 1911 but I went and looked at the short list of 357sci wanted to see. Looked at a S&W 686 with a 4" and 6" as well as a 327 tactical or something. They also had a Talo edition 686 6" barrel with beautiful grips and a 5" 8 shot 627 from the performance center. I'm a big guy with big hands and was deciding between those last two and trying to justify the extra 200 for the 627 performance. I ended up buying the 627 (full size N frame) and let me say.. This thing is amazing. As soon as I picked it up I knew it was right. Weight balance looks trigger. Put a box of 357 and 38s through it at 5-10 yards and the gun was more accurate then me. But I just need to practice more It also came with moon clips box and lock and a set of rubber grips but I love the wood. Anyway enough rambling.. Well I guess I can't post pics from my phone but i will tomorrow. Thanks guys! Rich

Well.. That didn't take very long. Had half day at work, stopped at the station to pick up my permits, did some things around the house then drive down to shore shot. I dealt with Bill ( I believe thats his name) and he was very patient, helpful and informative it's a very nice

Well my permits are in! I actually took an NRA pistol class with my buddy last weekend with gun for hire which was great and got to shoot the S&W686 which was gonna be one of my three anyway but that confirmed it. I was gonna get the 1911 first but I haven't had any time to go out to stores and rent, handle or shoot and I know there's so many options out there. I think I may go to shore shot or brick armry today or tomorrow to check out some pistols, prices and see what rentals are available. After I pick up the 686 I'll have to start researching more on a 1911 but I know I want to check out the range officer and kimber. Any input would be great thanks guys! Ps as I've said Im new to NJ and haven't been to a range or gun shop yet so any recommendations? I'm in lincroft. I was thinking brick or shore shot cuz they have rentals and a store also. Thanks! Rich

Thanks! Yea it is a very nice area.. My girlfriends parents live off of West Front St as do her other grandparents, and we are just 3 blocks down from Half mile off of 520. Thanks again for all the opinions and information guys. I will be going around shopping a little more and looking before I get one but will have to be coming up soon. Thanks! -Rich

Yea I really like the looks of the Beretta a lot. I'm hoping to make it to shore shot in the next week or so and see what they have available to rent so I can handle a few of them. In all honesty I would probably like to get both of them eventually but one will probably have to wait for another round of permits. THanks for the replies! -Rich

I agree with you regarding the heavier guns that's what I like. I also looked at an Auto Ordinance Thompson that I want to get at some point. Never looked at a wheel gun in 45 acp but may check some out eventually. I really like the M&P9 and also another candidate for a 9mm for me would be the beretta 92. But I don't know much about the beretta and I believe it isn't striker fired but I really like the looks of it. Thanks! -Rich

Hey guys. Well I moved to Red Bank area from NY about 3 months ago now and my permits should be here in the next week or two. So.. My first question is can I go to shore shot and rent some handguns even tho I dont have my permits or fid yet? Now for the fun part! I have three permits coming. I know I want a 1911 ( looking in the 600-1000 range) I have shot the Springfield which was really nice. Any others to try? Are there any colts in that range worth it? I know kimber is beautiful but have yet to handle one. Mostly will be used for range and woods target shooting My second permit will be a 357. I shot the Ruger GP which was awesome and I don't know much other than that one by I see ALOT about the S&W 686. What is the price range of the two? Any others to consider? Again it will mostly be used for target fun stuff and maybe if I get into a club for competitions. Would be a strong candidate for HD also. Lastly, I was looking for something cheaper and fun to shoot. Was thinking a 22 (I forget who makes it but I saw a wheel gun combo that came w a 22 mag wheel also ) but kinda leaning now more towards a 9mm so I can use it for HD too. I do not really like the polymer of the glock that I shot (17 I believe) it doesn't feel heavy enough or absorb recoil like the bigger metal framed guns I've shot. I was thinking of something similar tho that's striker fired. I like the looks of thr M&P 9 but don't know much about it. A friend of mine also works at Bersa in Ocean and says great things about them. I plan on renting and handling as many as I can. Also I am a pretty big guy and have big hands so small frame and conpact stuff is kinda hard for me to grip right. I know this is all a lot of info but Thanks for the help fellas! -Rich

thanks guys i will definitely look into libierty.. and thanks for that video it was very informative and kinda made me realize i should have added some more info in my post. the home i am moving into now is my finances grandparents so we are living in it for the next 1-3 years possibly to save some money. that being said, i dont necessarily want to get something in the 600+ lbs range that i cant take with me when i move out.. its really something to keep the guns locked away.. i dont have any large amounts of money or anything like that so it will only really hold 4-5 firearms for now (none that are expensive maybe $3,500 worth in all) and documents like passports, bonds etc. Thats kind of why i was looking at the lower end stuff but that video definitely made me think about what i will want to get in the future.. also you guys have any reccomendations on something to keep near the bedroom in an emergency? not sure if i want to leave the shotgun in the closet or get a handgun box

thanks guys i appreciate the info! yea I was thinking about biting the bullet and spending a littlre more.. I will have to take a drive down to liberty and a few other stores and check some out. -Rich

Hey guys! I made my introduction a few months back (moved from NY here to NJ (lincroft/red bank) about 2 months ago) and just went for my fingerprints so should be getting my permits and everything fairly soon. Anyway, my fiance and I just moved into our new house and I have my firearms I brought with me from NY and already know of a few that I'm planning on buying once I get my permits. That being said, I want to keep them locked up and safe from intruders, wandering guests, kids, and fire. But this is going to be my first safe and I dont really know much about them (if there is a lot to know?) Being that we just moved into the new place I dont have a ton of cash so I'd like to stay under $1000 if i can (the lower the better!) but I have some questions.. Is an electronic keypad better than a combo lock? I hear of issues when batteries die. I would think getting one with an outlet strip for humidifier would be a plus. I would like to get something for 10-20 long guns and 5-10 hand gun, some sensitive paperwork and possibly ammo if it fits so probably atleast a 24 gun safe I would think. I have seen costco, tractor supply, dicks and cabelas all have them but I would appreciate any feedback from you guys! And if anyone is selling one or has any leads that would be great! I got thinking about it recently because cabelas has free shipping on certain safes right now and I have points on my cabelas card. Thanks guys! I look forward to getting settled and meeting, interacting and shooting with y'all! -Rich

PS.. I dunno how many of you guys read any of the NY newspapers but this Retiree should be training the NYPD how to shoot! Lucky for the other two femals officers the scumbags gun jammed.. I'm glad to see whatever brains he had are on the pavement now I guess thats what you get for not cleaning your weapons and holding them sideways http://www.nypost.co...T7SdYwHFxIroYCJ -Rich

Thanks guys again for all the info! Yea Long Island is nice if you dont have to travel but I have been traveling across these damn bridges to NJ and the rest of the country for 5 years now (not to mention driving in NYC traffic everyday) so it will be a relief to only be a few miles from my new job even if it is in NJ. Red Bank is a nice area but I only need about 2-3 years of experience at this new job to get my engineering license and then I can move to other cities (and states!) but for now NJ will be my home. The one good thing about the new job is that its only 2 miles from where we will be living which means more time to shoot! So I will probably look to join some sort of club in the area. Thank you guys again for all of the input I look forward to contributing, learning and shooting as much as I can! If anyone has any questions for me feel free -Rich

Wow! Thank you guys for all the info and replies! I will be sure to PM or post any questions I have. I know NJ isnt the greatest place for us as gun enthusiasts but moving here is kind of what I have to do for now.. but my future father in law has 100 acres in PA only about 3 hours away so we go there to hunt and do just about anything our hearts desire As for the firearms, I dont have anything that would violate any of the big bad "assault weapons" ban, but I have been interested at trying my hand at an AR build at some point in the future. For now just some pump shotguns, a single shot, my trusty rem 700 for deer season and a few 22s. Will expand the collection once I am settled and have a safe and permits, etc. but i'm glad to know I can bring them with me. Thanks again fellas! -Rich

Yeaa.. well my long time girlfriend is born and raised in NJ and all of her family is here so as for now I dont really have much of a choice.. within the next 5 years or so her parents will be retiring in PA and mine will be in VA so i am looking forward to moving out of here (no offense to NJ) and moving to one of the less liberal states.. For now ill bite the bullet but I am glad to be atleast out of the NYC area and traveling across the damn bridges every weekdnd -Rich

Haha thanks guys.. Yea actually on Long Island right now (since I'm not in NYC) I dont need a permit of any kind for long guns so I'll probably have to leave my shotguns and rifles behind until I get my NJ firearms permit. But as for handguns, it will be much more of a relief to get the permit in NJ than in NY (much easier, cheaper and less $$). I already have a few lined up on my radar Anyways.. Thanks again guys. I'll have to start doing some research now about applying for my permits.. Do you guys know if I have to wait until I get my NJ drivers license, etc. before I can apply for the firearms permits? -Rich