Kingsoverqueens

How to get started? The longest journey begins with the first step. So basically, just show up, watch, listen, learn. Nobody is winning a Cadillac and as a new shooter (been at this just over a year) I can tell you hands down that I haven't met one single person that I wouldn't willing shoot with again. Except that Raz-o...he's a bit. Odd. lol (I keed...I keed) He gives good advice in his reply. My first "official" shoot was an indoor at Old Bridge, and then I shot some steel. Both are great fun and something my son and I now do regularly. We did shoot IDPA in Somerset once. They run a nice match, but for someone who was used to USPSA, the difference in rules made my head hurt, and my scores reflected that. I'm not sure which is easier to transition from/to USPSA to IDPA or the other way around. They are two different disciplines and while both a lot of fun, the difference in rules and performance may be off putting. If you wanted to try Static Steel, I own a set of 6 plates and 5 stands. We are at CJ almost every weekend. I'm more than happy to let you experiment informally.

I agree. They should not be doing that. I don't agree that they ARE doing that.

I'm very sorry to hear it, and unexpected too. Is there anything you'd like to share with us about him?

I've had a client since 1991 or 1992. He was at my wedding for crying out loud. I've known him forever. I was at his place recently and he noticed the tan on my face..."Hey, you got some sun." Yeah, we were at the range. His eyes lite up and we got to talking. Pretty soon 5 or 6 people aer in the convesation. Turns out that I never knew he was a bullseye shooter as a kid...pretty good one too. He's since joined my range and while it hasn't happened yet, we keep threatening to shoot with one another. Fellow shooters are everywhere, from all walks of life.

Did you tell your insurance people that you own guns, so that they could properly insure them for you?

You are a new shooter. You will get used to it. Try to put into perspective how much "large" amounts of ammo actually is, and when you do that, you'll see that a lot of ammo really isn't as much as you think. If you practice and shoot one event a week you can easily shoot 250 rounds. Multiply that by a month and then a year and tell me what you get. All of a sudden 10,000 rounds doesn't seem like a lot, does it?

No, actually, you didn't answer the question I asked. You answered a question you created. I find this an interesting conversation however out of respect for your wishes won't persist.

It would have been a good question for the Pediatrician to have asked that guy in Tom's River who's kid shot his neighbor with the loaded 22 rifle from under his bed. I don't think you can ever have enough discussion on firearm safety. I don't understand why people so bristle when the doctor asks about guns. I mean, I know gun rights are under seige. I was out their in the sleet and freezing rain at the rally. I too spoke at the hearings and in front of the NJ Task Force. I get it. I think we do ourselves more harm that good by being beligerent, even in a thread like this, when if we embraced educating others, we would further our cause. My Dentist mentioned it the other day...he asked what we are doing over the summer...he knew about the baseball with my one son, but when I mentioned shooting his eyes lite up. He can't wait to join us. I tell everyone that I shoot. Everyone.

You didn't answer the question. Given your stance I take it, if asked directly about guns in the house, you would reply "none of your business," or somethign to that affect. What about the back door situation that I posed. Do you respond to the doctor? It actually happened to me, only not with guns. My personal physician noticed the racoon eyes and tan line/band on the side of my head from my sunglasses, and inquired where I was getting so much sun. He asked about the reason rather than just noticing what was obviously sun bun/tanning and recommending sun screen. I was a boater at the time and naturally didn't take any offense to the question. So the question remains...would you get offended if when you tell the doctor that you and your son shoot guns, outdoors, in the heat, and he recommends good hearing protection, and sun screen?

How about your lawyer, or accountant? How about your insurance adviser?

You have kids?

Let me ask you this. Actually, lets assume that my son, who is 16, is your kid. He shoots USPSA and Speed on Steel. As you know, these events are done in the open under the hot sun (sun exposure and hydration issues) and subject to loud noises (ear protection) and flying objects (eye protection). So, you are at the Ped's office for the annual well visit and the Dr. notices his (and your) farmer tans..."I see you guys get some sun...remember to use sunscreen, ok." What do you do that you are out in the sun? Do you let him respond? Do you respond? To do so will introduce the gun topic? I'll pose a better one. My 16 y/o son and your 16 y/o son are going to get together to play some video games at your house, but before I agree, I ask (we do this) whether or not there are dogs in the house, and I ask if there are guns in the house. Do you disclose your firearm ownership, or respond that it is none of my business?

I don't agree, but then again, if it's something someone is worried about, I would then ask "when does it stop." Participation on a gun forum could eventually lead to a back door registration. A person certainly enjoys much more protection of privacy with doctor patient discussions and medical records than they do with Internet postings. It's really very simple. A person is certainly free to not respond to the question. It's just a question, and as I understand (and was noted above) part of a checklist. There is no legal or other obligation to respond to the Doctors questions. In fact, if someone is going to a pediatrician who asks these questions, and that person objects, they are free to find another doctor...one who asks questions more in keeping with his or her beliefs on what is proper medical care for their children.

Would you object if they asked about contact sports, and then offered advice on concussions or proper hydration? How about seat belts, or car seats? I don't know where the line is draw from what is proper medical advice, which I include as injury prevention, and intrusion into what one consider raising or safeguarding our children. Like I said, my pediatrician doesn't ask, so it's not an issue for me.

1 double pouch should be plenty. It's a reduced shot event. 3 stages and a classifier if I recall. Info is on the old bridge website. It's a fun shoot, and a nice way to bridge the gap between the outdoor shoots at OB and CJ, or if you are a beginner looking for your first event. The indoor event was my first and had me immediately hooked on USPSA.

Our Ped doesn't ask, but I have heard about others who do. They also ask about chemicals under the sink, swimming pools, dogs, and skateboards. There is no doubt that the AMA is anti gun, however, I don't fault a doctor who asks about these things and then provides information on safety. Example. Are there guns in the house? Yes. Well, it's a good idea to keep them locked up and out of the hands of the kids. This I wouldn't have a problem with. I don't think you can have enough talk about gun safety. Or encouraging kids to wear helmets while biking and skateboarding. Like I said, my pediatrician doesn't ask, but if they did, I'd have no problem responding, but I would object and become argumentative if they got preachy on me.

I shot at MCRP once and can tell you the only way it would ever compete with CJRPC is if they bulldozed the place and started over. There is no comparison to be made. For what it's worth, I think we've only shot indoors 2 or 3 times since joining. Once you shoot outdoors you'll never want to shoot indoors again. Unless of course the only time you can shoot is at night.

It has more to do with my friends noobishness and me supervising him. As you know guests at our range are not allowed to draw from the holster. I feel much more comfortable supervising a shooter using a DA gun rather than SA, especially when they are shooting from the low ready. The trigger pull in DA is much heavier (at least on a stock gun) than it is in SA, and all it takes is for me to sneeze, he turns his body to say bless you and discharges. It's just less likely to happen with DA gun in DA or at the least in SA with the safety engaged. Truth told I would feel just as uncomfortable if he was shooting a 1911 or a my sons striker fired M&P. With only 15 months or so under my belt I too am new at this and err to the caution. It's probably not rational, but it's how I view it.

Orly? Are small rifle primers easier to obtain?

What time did you wrap up?

Out of curiosity...assuming they are pointed down range and under supervision while in the process of decocking the hammer slips and a round is discharged. Automatic DQ?

I'm more concerned about him shooting steel where they will make him drop the hammer, unless perhaps he can shoot from low ready? I don't know...it's really not my problem. He wanted that gun...if he wants to shoot in events he'll have to deal with it.

Ugh. He joined us at the range for the first time yesterday. He's shot at some indoor places but asked for some basic instruction. We did some pistol drills and then some speed on steel. I had to put him far right in the pit and supervise/RO him standing to his right because the cocked gun gave me the heebies.

A friend of mine has a CZ with a manual thumb safety...not a decocker. Am I correct in assuming If he were to shoot steel or uspsa he would rack the gun, engage the safety, and then holster...thus on the draw he would disengage the safety and engage his targets?

I've been looking for a Beretta PX4 in 9 and searching for NJ (local) listings. Everything that I've found so far isn't NJ legal (17 round magazines). Just makes me shake my head...