Kingsoverqueens

Did you happen to notice the price for target grade 9mm?

I've been meaning to get back and reply to my thread. I fashioned some VERY inexpensive target stands. I'm half Scottish...I can't help myself. Take a section of EMT (conduit) and cut into 6" sections. Bonus fun because I got to use my sawzall. Attach said piece of EMT to the bottom of a one by furring strip with a 1 1/2 hose clamp. Repeat to make as many pairs as you deem necessary. I made 10 pieces for 5 stands. To use simply drive a 12" section of rebar (or gutter nail) half way into the ground, vertically, like a stake. Insert emt/furring strip into/over rebar and viola (waved hands for emphasis) 1/2 of a target stand. Happy shooting....

I only use the zip top bags because they are cheap, see through and can hold all of my magazines. It's for nothing other than pure convenience. I hate rummaging through my range bag looking for stuff at the bottom.

OK, but only because you said so. I'm going to Springsteen sat night and now that I think of it, I don't know if I've got enough ammo on hand for me and the boy. How are you set for stages? I know you need builders.

Never considered that.

What isn't loaded in the safe are kept in zip lock bags in my range bag. I've actually got everything organized by ziplocks in the range bag. Eyes and ears, magazines, holster and mag pouchs (per gun). It just makes it easier than fumbeling around at the bottom of the bag looking for stuff.

Thanks for the info and the link. I've saved it for future reference. So much to learn.

How do you learn what particular type of powder you like? Do they advertise burning differently (hotter v faster), or is it just from personal experience?

I'm not asking for myself but just in general, but since you ask, yes, plain vanilla 9mm target loads are what I'll be first focused on. I'm just wondering how long and how much time tinkering in general you guys spend working on your loads. It would seem to me that the trial and error portion would take some time. Load a sample of rounds. Go to range to shoot, diary results. Tweak and load again. Go to range to shoot, diary results. Repeat and so on. No?

OK, so how long did it take you to "perfect" your super secret recipe for your particular ammo? I've been reading about this reloading stuff and it seems that the more I read, the more I NEED to read. The latest was yesterday with slow burning powder v. fast burning powder and the crimp necessary for each. This had to do with rifle bullets, which I'm not going to be reloading, but still, it got me thinking. How long did it take you to get your load just right? I know how long it took with pizza dough, and assume it's kinda like that. Some trial and error, using different bullet weights and grains of powder?

1) I want to lower the cost of my ammunition, my time not being factored into the equation. I'm simply looking for less expensive target ammo. I understand it will take some time, quite a bit of time in fact, to amortize the cost of the equipment. 2) I'm only intending to do 9mm for at least 2 years. I don't envision buying any other caliber in the near future. 3) I only intend to do pistol ammo, no rifle (I don't own any) and no shotgun.

That's because you scared the OP away....big meanie. Lol

I'm not sure if it's a troll set up. Actually, I think it's a good discussion, but one easily fueled by inexperience. Lets face it, the vast majority of people in NJ are misinformed about guns, gun laws and the shooting sports in general. Some of those uninformed, or illinformed, are gun owners themselves. Me included. So much to learn and I'm still learning.

I clean them more times than not on my screen porch. It's actually easier to do it on the kitchen island but I prefer to be outside and not stink up the house. The porch is private but a snooping neighbor could see if they tried hard. So, legal? Yes. But the use of common sense is advised, or, be prepared to deal with a cop knocking on your door wondering why you have guns out in the back yard.

Are round counts for stages during Obrams events similar to standard USPSA events? Seems like they would be a lot of fun to shoot with a rimfire rifle or carbine.

Hope you could read my chicken scratch OK. It's really amazing how much work goes into these events, isn't it?

Ah, Obrams. I'll check the site and add them to my calander. Can't make this Saturday. Travel baseball conficts.

I thought Old Bridge Steel was on Sunday's?

I just glanced over the owners manual for the 15/22 and only notice reference to "never dry fire while unassembled." Pg 21 of the manual. I don't know if that means you're ok to dry fire while its assumbled. I didn't notice any reference in the FAQ to rimfire rifles...just pistols as provided above. http://www.smith-wesson.com/wcsstore/SmWesson2/upload/other/S&W_M&P_1522_Manual_08-30-2010.pdf

I just checked the Sig owners manual and it makes no reference to dry fire at all. While at it I checked the manual for my practice kit for my Beretta 92FS as well as the manual for the 92 itself. No reference whatsoever to dry fire.

I've only used it once under the supervision of an R/O in a Steel Plate event. I told the R/O at each stage that it was a rim fire and I preferred not to dry fire. I activated safe, ejected the magazine, cleared the gun and manually held back the bolt to show the chamber clear. Then I locked it in place (open) with the hold button and crated the gun. All 5 or 6 R/O's were comfortable with the proceedure.

You are correct. I didn't think it through. The last shell ejects when fired. The gun came with one factory magazine and I got 4 others from Black dog. They are listed as 15 rounders but in actuality only hold 14 due to the lock back on last round feature. http://blackdogmachi...d-magazine.aspx If the user manual says it's OK to dry fire the Kimber then I would go with that.

Ruger said yes. Smith & Wesson no. http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Category4_750001_750051_757815_-1_757814_757812_image#2 Kimber says only centerfire. Beretta does not recommend it and recommends a snap cap. http://berettausa.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/86/kw/dry%20fire

Which mfgs of .22's recommend dry firing?

Correct, and I would prefer it lock back on last round. For what ever it's worth all of my magazines are lock back on last round but a person could buy them without that feature. I'm not worried about an occasional dry fire, and even if it did happen (as you suggest) there would be a spent round in the chamber that could absorb some of the action, right?. Does Kimber recommend dry firing their practice kit? All I see on their website is that they say its safe to dry fire centerfire. From Kimbers website.... Can I dry-fire my pistol? It is safe to dry-fire our centerfire pistols