Kingsoverqueens

For the average shooter does it really matter? All that stuff? Aim, pull trigger, be ready for loud noise, repeat. No? I don't have enough experience with 9mm ammo to notice the difference between a 115 gr and 143 gr bullet. I have noticed that some of the bulk stuff doesn't cycle the pistol right, but I'm not sure that has to do with the bullet design rather than the weight of the bullet. Shotgun shells obvioulsy make a difference. But does it really matter that much for 9mm used for punching holes in paper, or steel plates? I ask because like everything there are significant price differences in ammo cost.

Gigglesnort.

I don't care if my guns burn up in a fire. They aren't worth that much money and they are insured. So is what little jewlery we have. I keep vascilating between a nice medium range 24 gun safe (like the Cannon) to an inexpensive Stack On Cabinate. I really just want to keep the kids out and the ammo locked up.

Thanks Nick, I'll keep my eyes open for that.

I have to do one of these. Does OBDOGS run them with rimfire?

Welcome neighbor. From everything that I've seen and researched the Cannon Challenger 24 gun safe fits the bill. Now I just have to get over and order one. http://www.tractorsupply.com/cannon-ts6026e-challenger-gun-safe-24-gun-capacity-1027670

The limitation on firearms is for the perils of "Theft, missplacing or loss of firearms." Otherwise they are considered personal property and covered just like your kitchen table. Every company and policy is different so you should always READ YOUR POLICY.

I'm having a ball with it. The first thing I did was field strip it. lol. Love the simplicity. It came with a browning reticle on it, but it doesn't sit high enough in my opinion and sometimes the front sight gets in the way. I'm going to order that riser and see if it doesn't help. I'd like to be able to use both the iron sights and the reticle. My kid told me to mount it sideways on the barrel, but I think he did that just to see if I would so that he could make fun of me. lol

I know. : ( The full size comes with 10 rounders, which isn't an issue. 15 is better, but 10 will suffice for my needs.

I'm a 92FS owner (9mm and the .22 practice kit) and am very happy. It's a great gun, quality goes without saying, US Military, blah blah blah, and everything else everyone else has said about it. It's a great gun. The ONLY thing I'm not thrilled with is that it's for right handed shooters, and I'm a lefty. I'm training myself to shoot righty. The PX4 is on my short list, and I'm interested to read that you can get 15 round Magazines for it. I'm not a Glock fan.

L & H Woods and Water in Wall.

Thanks. Just ordered, will let you know how they work.

My son and I were out last night. We shot in the trap league and I got a personal best round 21/25. After that to the pit and then indoors once it got dark. I ran into some of the members who joined up with me in april, and some other noobs, and some older members. It's just such a great facility.

Turns out we've got plans on the 12th and so I can't make it, but I was thinking about how to carry shells to reload the shotgun. How do you think a shell pouch used in skeet or trap events would work? In thinking about it, it might also serve a good purpose in holding magazines for the rifle, no?

Possible. Depends on whether my kids baseball team advances. Do you know if there is a multigun stage? I just got a Sig 522 and am dying to use it.

This looked like fun right up until the no .22 rifle was mentioned. That's all I've got in the rifle dept.

I watched a video that described the ballistic quality of all pistol grade ammo, and the disired effects it should have at stopping a person intent on causing you harm. The jist was that not all criminals will be motivated by pain to stop. Some will, but others need to be physically prevented to stop, meaning the round must cause such catostrophic damage to the body that while the mind may want ot advance the body simply cannot respond. It's a good video and if I can find it again I'll link it. I don't know enough about ballistics to say if a .22 would be a sufficient round, and given the choice God forbid I should I ever have to make it, I'd reach for my 9mm.

Thanks for all of the replies. Funny how things work out sometimes. There wasn't a gun availale when I posted this thread so we didn't buy one, and since then have decided to go another route. We almost pulled the trigger on a Sig 1911 in 22, but decided to hold out a Browning Buckmark with Rosewood handles instead. Please do keep the discussion going however. Someone else may benefit.

Picked up a Sig 522 rifle on Saturday. What a blast to shoot. Seems like a really great gun and I'm looking forward to using it at OBRAMs type events, or if nothing else, plinking in the pits at my range. Does anyone know where I might find extra magazines for this type of rifle? It's my first and I'm a clueless noob.

Absolutely. The calander is also posted online by the way so you can see wht events you'd like to try out. They also have great youth leagues. Make the most of it, it's YOUR club

Welcome. The biggest issue at the moment seems to be people using rifles other than 22 in the pits. It can be done to practice cowboy action or other shooting disciplines but only with pistol grade ammo (38 special as an example) with less than 1,000 FPS velocity. To qualify you must participate in 3 events. You'll see the info in your rule package. My advice would be to read the range rules and if you have any questions ask one of the board members. It really is a terrific facility. Oh, make sure to get your certification on the skeet/trap machines. It's done on the first and last sunday of the month and takes a few days after that before your fob will activate the machines.

We get this every now and then. Verizon in home agent usually fixes it by clearing the old connection and making a new one. I can do it manually as well a dnsflush and another command that I can't recall. It can be exceedingly frustrating how these things run flawlessly for months and then all of a sudden act up with seemingly no reason.

First pistiol was/is a Beretta 92FS in 9mm. No regrets, but still have an eye on a PX4 in 9 too.

I think it really depends on what you intend to do with the gun. Target pinking, USPSA, steel plate. Home protection? You really can't go wrong with a .22 LR for a first gun. Trust me when I say you will end up buying more. My first was a Beretta 92FS in 9mm. I like the decocking feature and that it is a hammer fired gun. As new shooters those two things were important to me. I purchased the 22 slide converstion "Practice" kit for it and now have the best of both worlds. The other nice thing about the 92 is that it's a military weopon and since there are so many of them around you will be able to find parts 20 and 30 years from now. I also liked the Beretta PX4, actually, it felt better in my hand than the 92, but my dealer couldn't locate one with NJ legal magazines, so I opted for the 92FS. No regrets at all. A gun is a very personal preference. They all fit and feel different in yoru hand to mine. Go to a gun store that has a good selection and tell the salepersone. Hold several, see what feels good.

Great read and thanks for sharing. I remember the feeling I had the first time I wore my gun in a holster. Strange, liberating and yes, oddly patriotic. But withen a short time it felt very natural. And that was unloaded, at the range. I can only wonder what it feels like to OC or CCW out in the "real world."