ALAN553

He’s wrong…

I suppose you could put a cable through the gun and around the seat rail and just lock it and put it under the seat, in with jack or spare storage, take the mag with you or put it someplace else in the car?

and our politicians are worried about us being irresponsible, untrained, careless , dangerous etc

One country, 50 states, 21 county’s…amazing how it can be that different from county to county

I copied two pages to one, both sides, trimmed off borders and folded it down to credit card size and put it inside fold of permit. Permit is a joke, edges looked like they were cut with a scissor, folded in half, and picture is glued on.

Mine was signed 2/7

received morris county permit today, no boxes checked but, "SEE ATTACHED ORDER" which states, which gun and carry 2 page 8 1/2 x 11" order with you....

Just got email from Montville, come get it…submitted 10/4, (4 1/2 months) don’t recall timeline of processing.

Didn’t tell me where I was, but to expect another 6 weeks…PD got it Oct 4, court got it Nov 4

Maryland too!

Call Morris county the other day, PD Oct 4, court received it Nov 4. They predicted another 6 weeks. 2 people working there, sitting on a couple of hundred applications

They want you to carry a brief case with supporting documentation as well as your ID card, FIDC card, and a gun, cell phone, keys…you’ll never get out of the house in the morning . They want you to conceal your weapon but carry three sheets of 81/2 x 11 pieces of paper with you. Can’t make this stuff up

dropped at PD Oct 4, money order not cashed yet, called criminal division of courts jan 4th, someone answered and said he will forward my concerns and someone will call me back.....still waiting for that call

glock 43, piece of cake...should have 38 rounds in with 7 and 10 yards...only need 2 more out of the next 12 at 15 and 25

AND, the qualifications are different from range to range....always 80% but different distances and number of rounds agreed, but that ship already sailed..they are putting the number on you carry card

The law is poorly written, it states that you must be the owner of the gun, therefore, by putting the serial number of the gun on your carry permit, it proves you are the owner. If they want proof of ownership, not skill, you should be give a wallet size registration for your gun at point of sale to carry, just like your auto registration.

I have been practicing with a new G43…small compared to my G17. GFH, 24 rounds at 7 yds, 14 at 10…so hitting inside the Q target at those ranges is easy, gets you to 38. Only need 2 more with 6 at 15 and 6 at 25. Out of those 12 should be easy…I’ve done it repeatedly…hope I don’t choke under anticipated pressure Lol.

No way should being diabetic preclude you from absolutely anything!!!!! There is no question on the application that you would have to answer to that or anything else for that matter, heart disease, autoimmune disease, cancer….that is not mental health.

yes, just saying this will probably be disputed over time, hopefully

if proof of ownership is the only criteria needed on the permit, your shouldn't need to Pay to physically qualify with anymore than one handgun. and then just list any other guns you can show proof of ownership for. The state has a record already of the purchase...they granted you permission to buy it in the first place. Multiple qualifications with similar handguns is absurd and costly. The way I read the law...as long as you own it, you can carry it.

Which just goes to the bigger problem, shouldn’t have to list any serial numbers on your permit, completing the requirements to get the permit should be enough. your cars registration isn’t listed on your drivers license, you can drive any make or model after you passed the drivers test. and driving isn’t t even a right…it’s a privilege. If you have a CCW and your carrying someone else’s gun…and you use it, you and the owner of the gun have even bigger problems.

But it is not your job to prove you own the gun, it would their's to prove you don't. At the time of purchase, your pistol is registered with the NJSP, you get a copy and you receive an email notice from NJSP. Your CCW states that you can carry any firearm that you own, if they want to put multiple serial numbers on the permit thats fine, but you shouldn't have to pay to show a qualifiaction with each gun, You are proving your knowledge and skill with a handgun, not a G23, G19 or a G 17. Prove you own it and it should be listed...

nope, I have not seen a new CCW ID card, but because they are not photographing your, like your DL, they need a smaller Pic to laminate on your card...just guessing.

on the photo thing...it "means" passport quality/framing picture cut down to the smaller size

Balimore is having a high capacity mag buy back...$25/mag, i gave them to a relative and hes turning them in for some cash....10 magazines...$250.....thanks Gov Hogan.....the least NJ could have done was returned the sales tax I gave them for the legal purchase....