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Lol. Yeah I'm still off the laser. Printing out those targets this weekend and hitting the range. I was just glad to see that second because it means I wasn't the only one who thought that a laser might work for this.

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Say what? I thought all guns are always at risk of just "going off". That's why they're bad.

We do, but it has to go through legislature. Not sure of the exact process.

Will they ship components to an ffl?

If you don't mind used: http://summitgunbroker.com/220-german.html

Then, as if on cue: http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2014/05/daniel-zimmerman/question-day-use-laser-practice/

I don't know much about the Smith. But the SP101 is machine engraved and not much of a collectable. There are always a few on gunbroker, etc and they only command a few dollars more than standard SPs (smaller than the difference in MSRP). Ruger collectors are usually more interested in odd calibers (9mm, 32 H&R, .327) or service guns, like the SPNY issued to NYPD. There's also a rarer Talo SP with gold accents (limited run of 600) that those guys drool over. That said, they also don't seem to mind if the gun's been fired, so long as it's not beat up. Having the original box and papers is the bigger deal.

Yeah, I agree. It's not a big deal, which is why I wasn't looking to spend a lot of dough on it. Also, thanks for the advice guys.

LOL. Scrap's GLOCK encomium notwithstanding, you really should at least give the G19 a test run. I mean, sure, it's blocky, plastic, inelegant and far from the belle of the ball. But that's the case for most poly-framed, striker fired, bottom feeders anyway. And the GLOCK is well-regarded for its ruggedness, simplicity and dependability. Would it be my first choice? Not unless they stop making revolvers, metal-framed guns and guns with hammers. But in that world (which is what your parameters set-up), yeah, the GLOCK would be first.

Essentially, I just want something I can use to help my wife out with her pistol shooting, so she can get a better idea of where she should be lining up her sights and what she might be doing wrong with her trigger pull. I don't really need a fulltime laser as a tactial tool. A. I don't carry. B. A laser wouldn't get any use in a home defense scenario, either: My HD long guns are all shotguns, none of which have rails.* The back-up handguns are all revolvers. The bottom feeders are really just range guns and maybe back-ups to the back-ups. The longest shooting distance in my home is just under 10 yards. And that's from an unlikely defensive location to an even more unlikely threat position. The more realistic distances I might ever have to shoot at are 15-20 feet. *This might be changing, but for now the wife shoots and operates the shotguns really well and is more familiar, comfortable and accurate with revolvers than semis. And at those distances, I've found that less is more. My (and her) accuracy, even when point shooting, is spot on. And considering the speed at which a threat can close that distance, the less I have to do to get the gun in the fight, the better. TL;DR: Any laser I buy will primarily be used at the range for improving punching holes in paper. On a $300 gun. High-end would be a waste, as would cheap and useless.

Thanks for the offer. I still have to decide if the better models are worth investment for my purposes.

Holsters? We don't use that kind of language in the Citizen Disarmament Republic of NJ.

Well, it's hammer fired and all steel...

To narrow it down a little more: What kind of safety, if any? Size? Sights? Mag capacity? Main purpose? EDIT: What DSD said...

Any recommendation on a good higher end laser, then?

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Yeah. There are 25 and 50 yard ranges. You can shoot in either.

Ugh. I just gave myself agida researching historical prices. .22lr for around 2 cents a round, 9mm for 15 cents, 45 for 21 cents. All 5-7 years ago. eff.

This only goes to last summer, but interesting nonetheless. http://www.slickguns.com/product/historical-ammunition-price-index-9mm-223556-22lr

You know, that actually makes a lot more sense than north/south

If push comes to shove (expiring permits, for instance), get a GLOCK 19/17. You'll probably be very happy with it. And if for some reason you hate it, you can always sell it without losing too much $, if any. (about the same as a couple of rental sessions)

Renting guns can get expensive aywhere. Going out to PA also involves paying for gas and maybe tolls. OP, you might want to check these out http://gunforhireshop.com/?product_cat=test-drive-series There doesn't seem to be one at the moment that includes mainly full sized pistols, but as a new shooter, you can get a feel for how several different guns operate AND you'll be shooting under the supervision of an experienced instructor. Of course the best (and cheapest) way to try out different guns is to shoot with someone you know. Lastly, consider taking an NRA pistol class with a live fire component (readily available in lots of locations). Again, you won't be shooting exactly the gun you're looking at, but you will get some trigger time and learn a whole lot (you'd be surprised how much you don't even know that you don't know). And if you're not shy about it, you can pick the instructor's brain about GLOCKs, .45s, what makes a good first gun and maybe even where to shop.

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