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Say someone owns an air rifle (not the eVil silent kind) that was legally purchased, but they no longer have the COE. Would that ever present any legal issues?

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Interesting. The SN on my Ruger P95 is set up the same way: metal plate attached to polymer frame. So how easily removed = too easy?

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Unbelievable though it may seem, I've seen both that and (more than once) buyer gets robbed, calls police, gets charged along with dealer. Idiots gonna idiot.

That's absolutely true. Cliffs for the ADHD crowd: A. -Got great service at a LGS, even though I said up front that I wasn't buying. -When I needed something, went back to them, even though price was higher than other places. B. -My go to FFL provides so much value (service, transfer price, advice and extras, like holding a gun for over 6 months once) that I'd gladly pay more to buy from him, because in reality, I'm still coming out ahead by dealing with him. ----------- Ex. 1 Last summer I went into Lou's for the first time. I told the guy (can't remember his name) up front that I wasn't buying anything and didn't have any permits, just looking around on my lunch hour. We got to talking about .45s and he pulled out half a dozen different guns for me to fondle and answered a bunch of questions. He then asked if I'd ever considered a 1911. I said I didn't know much about them, and off we went to the 1911 display, where we he showed me another 5 or 6 guns and explained a bunch of stuff. I thanked him and left. A few weeks later I needed a .22 rifle to take my nephew shooting. Guess who I bought out from? Yup, Lou's, even though I paid about 15% more than I would have at Dick's for the same Marlin 60. Ex. 2 Rick (OMG Custom Guns) is who I use for transfers. He only charges $35 first gun, $5 each additional. He stays on top of my OGAM dates better than I do. And has held guns for me for months while I'm waiting for permits and is real shooter and 2A supporter*. Every time I go there, I spend at least 30 minutes after my transaction is done, talking guns, looking at what he's got in stock, etc. He walked me through cleaning the Cosmo off my first Mosin and and gave me a bunch of tips on building an AR. I also hear he's a kick-ass gunsmith. *I asked him once why he didn't charge more for transfers and he explainedd that he doesn't do it to make money, he does it to help out fellow shooters. I believe him 100%, too. He's just that kind of guy. In fact, last time I transferred two guns through his shop (handgun and rifle), he didn't charge me for the second one (I insisted on paying for it anyway). And because of all of that- awesome, above and beyond service; tons of knowledge; great price on transfers; & being a real gun guy- as long as he can get what I need, I'll be buying from him, even if it's cheaper elsewhere.

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I'll just add this here: Primary HD should def be a long gun (AR or shotgun) But as a back up, revolvers are an excellent choice

Cliff Notes: -Get a used S&W or Ruger. -.38s are a good choice too. -Know what to look for in a used gun. Sorry about the wall of text below, lol, The cliffs really cover the what. The rest is the "how come". I would recommend, as others have, that you shop around for a used S&W or Ruger. In addition to the reasons listed above, the resale value on those guns is excellent. If you ever wanted or had to sell it, you'd probably get what you paid for it, if not more. Additionally, at the price point you set, and as NJluger mentioned, a gun chambered in .38, like the S&W Model 10, is an excellent choice. While I'm a big proponent of "everyone should own a .357 magnum" and I enjoy shooting .357s, .38 special +P will do most things you need it to. In fact, that's what's loaded in every revolver I have at home. But for a carry gun, I'd *probably* go w/ magnums. Though maybe not even then. However, that's not one of your purposes for this purchase, so not an issue. Inside your home, without hearing protection, setting off a full house magnum or two = permanent damage/hearing loss. Used Model 10s pop up all the time as police/security trade-ins and are usually priced right at or even below $300. Those trade-ins are probably a better value than a used gun from a private seller would be. Service revolvers like those may have a rougher finish (from holster carry and the fact that the one carrying it is not the actual owner), but will have likely been shot sparingly and almost exclusively with agency issued ammo. A gun from a private seller might have a more well cared-for appearance, but may have seen thousands of rounds down the tube of various quality and powder charge. Of course with a Smith or Ruger, round count should not be a big deal, but nonetheless, you're probably going to get a 'newer' gun from a service trade-in. Lastly, if buying a used wheel gun, this is indispensible: http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=57816

Happened to me a few times when I first got my P345 (piece of palm meat would get caught between the mag well and base plate). I learned to be more careful pretty quickly, lol.

Slavery was abolished by the 13th Amendment. Here's the text: Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, ***except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted***, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction. As for the death penalty, all for it if administered by a justice system I could trust. So no.

Every retailer I've ever seen/dealt with has a strict no return policy on ammo. Some places state that it's a safety issue (agreed), others (like Wal-Mart) claim it's against federal law, though I've never found a citation to the alleged law. Either way, the only options CTD had here were: 1. Refund the price of one box. 2. Ship out another 9 boxes for free 3. Tell OP to go kick rocks (which was their first response). If they kept being jerks about it, it probably would have resulted in more phone calls, emails, complaints to BBB, etc. On balance, they took the cheapest way out (pun intended). In summary: -CTD goofed (100% their fault). -Their initial response was "Too f***ing bad, deal with it." -When the customer refused to just get screwed, they did the least they could, rather than the right thing (delivering what they agreed to and were paid for). Yup, Cheaper Than Dirt, still scumbags. They'll never see a one red cent from me.

When they walked up on that cook out, the firsst thing I said to my wife was "That's a man sized grill." Terminus = cannibals

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That's funny. I was thinking weight, which is 24.25oz or 1.5+lb

I had to do a double take on that. Obvs you meant 1.6lb

Good call on the 38/357. Also, your mom sounds awesome.

Any time I see I duplicate post, I know Checko´s post will soon follow, lol. You should add "official NJGF dupe catcher" to your title.

^Good post. I've said this several times on this and other forums: if the difference is less than $50-60 don't be cheap, support the local guys. If you're talking about hundreds of $ difference, than don't be a chump, lol. In the OP's case, some of the prices were more than double. That's just nuts. Though again, shopping around locally can still get you good prices, without having to go online. The biggest savings vs. MSRP I've ever gotten was at a local shop (35% lower than MSRP).

What time do you guys go on? I'm tied up until 10:30ish and live about 30 min away, but would like to support.

Here's a prime example of why shopping around is important: I ran a Gun Genie search for a GP100, 3" .38spl, MSRP $729 The local quotes ranged from $644 to $747 (final price, out the door). A quick search online found it for $569.99 plus shipping ($35, think). Even if shipping were free, you're still looking at right around $600 after NICS. I'd rather pay a few extra bucks to support a local (in this case, Jim Flynn, Hacketstown and a couple of other shops came in at that price). The $644 price is actually $589 +tax +NICS. That's totally fair comparable to what's online. But I can't imagine going to the shops coming in at or above MSRP. Supporting local is one thing, wasting money is another.

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Cool. let me know if you want to shoot them before buying. I guessing from your screen name that you're not too far from me.