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Same here. When I was young, I didn't get it. Once I did, I was too old.

Yup. Unlike the Drug Court guys (yes, males) last week who were discussing the best wrapping/lube for bringing their drugs, cigarettes, hypodermics, etc in when they get weekend sanctions.

LOL, I noticed it and it didn't bug me at all.

Weird, but I'd still shoot it. LOL Que?

lol. I really wasn't taking a shot at your pic or post. Just giving you an example or where your family might be coming from. (that urban operator story is just hilarious, though )

I guess I'm a capitulator and/or Fudd for thinking that corny ass sh|t like killing paper at 20 paces w/ an ultra-tacticool .22 is umm........ corny. I'll stand aside now and leave you to the task of saving our rights one mag dump at a time.

He has every right to post those pics. He also has the right to tell a cop who pulls him over to go assf*ck his own mother. Neither of those exercises of his rights would be prudent, though both exist and any negative consequences would eventually be resolved in his favor. Probably.

Not for nothing, but I'm with NickJC on this. And I argue pro- 2A stuff ALL DAY long on twitter and FB. But.... If I see a pic like that on FB, my first thought is "If this dude is discharged, why's he still dressed like he's deployed? Is he the infamous IDPA Urban Operator?" http://thefirearmreport.com/2013/10/an-urban-operators-first-idpa-match-part-1/ Your aunts and uncles, who probably still think of you as 'Little Evan' are looking at that pic and thinking "Little Evan's never been in the Army, wtf's up with all the military gear? People are going to think he's one of those radicals and next time we all travel together, there goes our flight..." http://rt.com/usa/tsa-arrest-arabic-flashcards-court-845/ http://news.yahoo.com/sock-monkey-s-toy-gun-detained-by-tsa-215850875.html And Shawn's nosy neighbor is thinking "Uh Oh, time to call the fuzz again!" http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2013/03/father-takes-pictures-of-11-year-old-son-with-ar-15-social-services-demand-entry-to-his-home-and-guns-or-they-will-take-his-kid-away-2598306.html

From a DEA guy with dreadlocks. And a limp.

UPDATE: They added $100 gift card on any purchase of a Springfield.

Coupon codes (only one per order): SG3666 for $15 off of $125 PLUS $15 gift card, OR SG3712 for $25 off $125, OR SH1831 for free shipping no minimum Offer expires at 11:59 P.M. CST on Thursday, December 26, 2013. $15 Gift Card will be mailed separately within 7 to 14 days and will expire on February 09, 2014.

For our purposes (HD in most cases) if you're using a handgun you've already failed.

It occurs to me that as subjects of the Citizen Disarmament Republic of New Jersey (CDRNJ™), this whole discussion is purely academic for most of us, since we ain't carrying a damn thing. For federal LE, going to modern 9mm HP ammo from .40S&W (the original point of the thread), seems like 6 of one, half a dozen of the other. Meaning that the decision probably had little to do with ballistics and is likely based mainly on some other reason(s).

The purpose of that statute is probably to prevent people from baiting bear and shooting them.

^This, all day. http://www.adn.com/2009/08/13/897940/twig-snap-alerts-dog-walker-to.html The slightest noise -- a twig snapping -- prompted Brush to glance over his shoulder. Less than 20 yards away, a brown bear was charging, "ears back, head low and motorin' full speed. "Came with zero warning," Brush said. "No woof, no popping of the teeth, no standing up, nothing like what you think." Brush said he wears a pistol on his walks because bears have chased his dogs in the past. He drew a Ruger .454 Casull revolver. There was no time to aim, barely time to squeeze the trigger. He's not sure whether he got off two shots or three, but one proved fatal. "Total luck shot," he said. "It doesn't get any closer. He slid by me on his chin when I shot him," Brush said. "I was backpedaling as fast as I could. I wasn't even aiming. I tripped over my own feet as I pulled the trigger." He estimated that the animal weighed 900-plus pounds, and was 15 to 20 years old. Read more here: http://www.adn.com/2009/08/13/897940/twig-snap-alerts-dog-walker-to.html#storylink=cpy

Yup

my wife ordered some targets yesterday with the coupon, so far so good. If we get the eff u email I'll report back. Come to think of it, my mom could probably some buckshot...

At Palmetto State Armory through 1/1/14, buy any Smith & Wesson, get a $100 gift card, any Kimber, $200 gift card.

Here are some more details on this model: F E A T U R E S : -The half-lug, slab-sided 4.2" barrel delivers lively handling for quick transition between targets. -The barrel also features an 11° target crown for competitive-level accuracy. -Match-tuned action with polished and optimized internals, a centering boss on the trigger, and centering shims on the hammer produce a smooth double-action trigger pull and a crisp and consistent let-off. -A fixed Novak ® Lo-Mount Carry rear sight and fiber optic front sight allows for a fast and visible sight picture. -A custom Hogue® hardwood grip with stippled sides permits an ideal grip for competition shooting. (Patented grip frame design easily accommodates a wide variety of custom grips.) -The ejector and chamber mouths have a light chamfer to aid loading, while a contoured cylinder enables easy re-holstering. -Triple-locking cylinder is locked into the frame at the front, rear and bottom for more positive alignment and dependable operation shot after shot. http://ruger-hosted.s3.amazonaws.com/email/1754-SellSheet-0e3dad1d793928a.pdf ****************************** Nice, but still pretty sure I won't be buying one. However, rumor has it that there's a 3" carry version w/ all the same features coming up.

Yeah, probably just my lack of experience w/ Smiths.

Bob, I've heard the weakness argument, but never believed it. The reason I mentioned the side plate is that the design is more complicated than Ruger's. That said, I've taken the plate off my Model 10 and got intimate with the guts. But doing the same on my Rugers has always been much easier and less fraught with fear of flying springs and scratched finishes. So it's not a "I don't trust Smiths" issue, it's a "I take my guns apart and there's a lot more to do on a Smith" issue. Ditto for the lock removal. Nevertheless, by the biggest con for me is the look of the SSR. If it looked more like a traditional 686, I'd take it over the geep. And I DO like Smiths. In fact, one of my next 3 permits is earmarked for a 625 JM, and if could only have one revolver, it would be the TRR8.

That's what I have on mine. Wink, if you're not too far from the Clinton area, I can meet you at the WMA range on a weekend morning so you can beat your shoulder up with the 12.

If I was deciding between those two, I'd get the GP. Both guns are likely more accurate than I am. Cons for the Ruger: Rear sight. Cons for the SSR: Hideous, internal lock, side plate. And hideous

This. My 12ga Ultra is stupidly accurate to 100yds (at least) and that sabot slug* will take down anything in the lower 48. *300gr Hornady FTX bullet going 2000 fps.