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Ha! My first thought when I saw it was- That's one Smith looking Ruger...

Yeah,I uploaded that stuff before ordering

My order came in last week

Agreed on the grips and the sights. I've always liked the half-lug on the 4" geeps and the slab side bbl works for me here, Word is that the trigger/hammer are polished & shimmed from the factory. I'd have to shoot one to know if it's worth the extra $ over the standard 4" (probably isn't).

Loosk like Ruger's made its first foray into the IDPA revolver world. http://ruger.com/products/gp100/specSheets/1754.html

Well that was easy. Ordered a box of slugs ($3.99 shipped), getting a $20 gift card.

Oh snap. I've never seen the .45ACP Critical Defense. Thanks for the links

For HD purposes, I load Critical Defense in all my handgun calibers (.38 .357 & 9mm). The only exception is .45ACP because Hornady only makes Critical Duty* in 45, so I have a couple of boxes of Winchester Ranger Ts and Speer Gold Dots that caliber. *The main difference between Critical Duty & Critical Defense is that the former is supposed to provide greater hard barrier penetration prior to expansion in the target. Since I don't carry and will probably never need to shoot through a car door in my rec room, I don't see the need to load something that will over penetrate even more than the average round, by design.

All of that^ In a real defensive shooting, you're not putting 5 shot in one hole. That's ridiculous. What you get from practicing tight groups is the ability, under real stress and possible return fire, to keep your shots within that center mass area (hopefully).

To be fair, he may have just been talking about NYPD, in which case, it's a legit point.

Re: Easy Day video- The most awesomest part was how an empty wood dresser provided cover from an AK.

Well, everything below a .41 magnum, anyway.

There are plenty of 10 +1 .45s out there. Also- FNX- 15 +1 XD/Glock- 13 +1 HK- 12 +1

It wasn't just the 9mm, it's that they were loaded w/ the sh1tty 1980s 115gr Winchester Silvertips, known for jacket/lead separation, unreliable expansion and 7-9" penetration.

Ha! Would be even funnier if it weren't so sadly true

An excellent point. If you're shooting someone in a defensive situation, the goal is rapid incapacitation. If they die, so be it, but that's not what you're aiming for (no pun intended).

I've only been shooting for a few years, but I've researched the 9 vs 40 vs 45 debate a lot. I have guns in 9 and 45. No 40s and no plans to ever get one. I just haven't seen a convincing argument that it brings anything to the table that the other two don't. But more importantly, .357 mag...

A point to consider (though probably redundant among this group) is that a gun in the home is useless without the proper mindset. Lots of people have some shotguns or a rifle somewhere at home, but most are unlikely to be prepared for the worst in a violent home invasion. My take aways from this thread: Lock up your guns when you're out. Always have guns within easy reach when home.

Someone has (maybe had by now) a Glock 26 for sale in the marketplace for $400. That's out the door. If I had a permit I would've been all over it.

Kahr CM9 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyvmVUHSdcw If you're willing to go a little bigger and a few extra dollars: SR9c or Glock 26. Though to piggy back on some of the statements above, this kind of gun is really for concealed carry. It;s no fun at the range and for home defense, a full size gun w/ 15 +1 is better than a smaller gun w/ less capacity. These sub-compact guns are just not your best option for anything but CCing.

More great CS from Rick: My OGAM date for my next permit was yesterday (12/9). I was supposed to call Rick and remind him to run the NICS so I wouldn't lose any extra days. Of course I forgot. So I just called and before I even tell him why I'm calling, he says "Hey Al, I ran your stuff yesterday, you're all set." Can't beat an FFL who's more on top of your stuff than even you are.

13 days on my last set

That was actually a useful clarification. Thanks. And I know that blast. First time I felt it, I thought "wtf is that!" I think outdoors is def. the best bet for new shooters. Or for shooting, period. It's just a way better experience.

I dunno. My first time shooting was indoors and there was a guy in the next port shooting 12ga buck/slugs. Somehow, I lived. ------- .223 is a home defense caliber. In fact, some people would say the it's the best. ------- I've had people complain about the bang/flash from my .357s. One guy at Bullet Hole complained to the RO about being next to me and wanted to move. The range was full and so he packed up his 10/22* and left. *Shooting a scoped .22 rifle indoors at 21 yards (max distance at BH) is even stupider than shooting a centerfire rifle at those distances. At least an AR/AK is a legit CQB weapon. ------- All of that said. If you think the person will be sensitive to noise, recoil, percussion etc, drive the extra distance and get them outdoors. Maybe even a WMA rimfire range (though there will be some people shooting black powder/slugs in the weeks leading up to deer season).

Edit: What 45doll said