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Ghostrider

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  1. Well here is an interesting update. Last month I ordered some ammo from Palmetto State Armory, the ammo was shipped to me with no problem. Two days ago I ordered some more ammo (Prvi .223 75 grain OTM ammo) and yesterday I received the email below from them. This is now the 2nd company (HSM was the first, now Palmetto State) who are claiming their are restrictions on shipping ammo to NJ. New Jersey (Ammunition) We are currently updating our ID system. Because you are a resident of the state of New Jersey ordering handgun ammunition, we will require a copy of your Firearms ID. You can send that by either responding to this email or faxing them to 1-803-788-5756 with the order number attached, or we could remove the restricted items from your order (there will be a 10% processing fee to cancel orders). We will be required to ship only to an address listed on one of these IDs. We would love to get your order shipped out as soon as possible; we simply require a valid copy of your identification in order to do so. If you have any questions or would like any assistance regarding the matter, please feel free to let me know. Please let me know how you would like to proceed. Thank you Jason Dickey Palmetto State Armory
  2. HSM = Hunting Shack Munitions. I couldn't find anything online to verify the statement that was made to me. So I just went ahead and ordered some 75 grain PRVI Partizan from Palmetto State (which just happened to be on sale). I wanted to order the HSM as it uses the Hornady T1 bullet, ASYM ammo is also loaded with Hornady's T1 bullet, but was more expensive.
  3. Does anyone know if the state has changed their position on allowing hollowpoint / OTM bullets to be shipped to New Jersey? I placed an order this morning with HSM for some of their 75 grain .223 and 5.56 ammo. I received all call earlier this afternoon that they would not be able to ship the ammo to me as they have been advised by the NJ State Police that they can no longer ship hollowpoint ammo to New Jersey. They were told if they did, they would be arrested. Looking at the NJ State police website, no where does it say hollowpoint ammo cannot be shipped to a NJ resident. So does anyone know if something has changed? http://www.njsp.org/...ire_hollow.html Provided certain conditions are met, a sportsman may transport and use hollow point ammunition. There are no restrictions preventing a sportsman from keeping such ammunition at his home. N.J.S.A 2C:39-3f(1) limits the possession of hollow nose ammunition. However, there is a general exception that allows for the purchase of this ammunition but restricts the possession of it to specified locations. This exception provides that: (2) Nothing is sub section f (1) shall be construed to prevent a person from keeping such ammunition at his dwelling, premises or other land owned or possessed by him, or from carrying such ammunition from the place of purchase to said dwelling or land . . . [N.J.S.A 26:39-3g (2)]. Thus a person may purchase this ammunition and keep it within the confines of his property. Sub section f (1) further exempts from the prohibited possession of hollow nose ammunition "persons engaged in activities pursuant to N.J.S.A 2C:39-6f. . . ." N.J.S.A 26:39-3f. (1). Activities contained in N.J.S.A 26:39-6f. can be broken down as follows: 1.A member of a rifle or pistol club organized under rules of the National Board for the Promotion of Rifle Practice and which filed its charter with the State Police; 2.A person engaged in hunting or target practice with a firearm legal for hunting in this State; 3.A person going directly to a target range, and; 4.A person going directly to an authorized place for "practice, match, target, trap or skeet shooting exhibitions." As with other ammunition and firearms, a sportsman would have to comply with the provisions of N.J.S.A 2C:39-6f and g when transporting hollow nose ammunition to a target range. The ammunition should be stored in a closed and fastened container or locked in the trunk of the motor vehicle in which it is being transported. The course of travel should be as direct as possible when going to and leaving from the target range with "only such deviations as are reasonably necessary under the circumstances." N.J.S.A 2C:39-6g. If the sportsman's club member plans to hunt with a rifle and use hollow nose ammunition in a state where this is permitted, he must comply with the provisions of U.S.C.A. 926A and N.J.S.A 2C:39-6(f) and (6)(g), which is consistent with the federal law, in transporting the firearm and ammunition. The firearm should be unloaded and neither the firearm nor the ammunition should be readily accessible from the passenger compartment. If the vehicle does not have a trunk, the firearm and the ammunition should be contained in a locked container other than the glove compartment or the console. 18 U.S.C.A. 926A. In addition, the sportsman should have a valid hunting license in his possession from the state in which he plans to hunt and should be familiar with that state's gun laws. N.J.S.A 2C:39-6(f)(2) requires a person hunting in this State to have a valid hunting license in his possession while traveling to or from the hunting area. Hunting with hollow nose ammunition is permitted in New Jersey. In the case of a New Jersey resident traveling to another state to hunt, it logically would follow that the hunting license would be from the state where the hunter is going. Although the federal statute does not require possession of a hunting license, it does require that the person transporting the firearm be going to a state where possession of that object is lawful. A valid hunting license from that state effectively supplies the proof. These conditions for use and transport of hollow nose ammunition are consistent with the legislative intent to restrict the use of such ammunition to a limited number of people. It is well established that in construing a statute exceptions are to be "strictly but reasonably construed, consistent with the manifest reason and purpose of the law." Service Armament Co. v. Hyland, 70 N.J. 550, 558-559 (1976). The State Supreme Court has "characterized the Gun Control Law as 'highly purposed and conscientiously designed toward preventing criminal and other unfit elements from acquiring firearms while enabling the fit elements of society to obtain them with minimal burdens.'" Id. at 559.

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