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And the NYers scream out "MOLON LABE!" Best of luck to them in this fight.

I agree completely with TK421. I feel as if this massacre will be used as more fodder for anti-gun legislation, instead of looking at the corrupt activities of certain government/police groups who sweep some things under the rug, like with the Kelly Thomas case. It's horrible that Dorner had to take it that far though. My condolences go out to the victims' families.

Thank you. I waited until2:50pm to speak but never got to because of the buses. Hopefully they give my letter the time of day.

True, no doubt about that. What he has done recently is horrible and should by no means justified by what I said. I just can't help but feel somewhat angry that he was admonished for filing suit against those who murdered a guy and covered it up. You know what I mean? I don't think our government and certain law-enforcement agencies receive enough attention for the blatant abuse of power (think this, and Obama's drone protocol). Sorry, I see I'm rambling here. I'll save it for another discussion. glad this whole story has come to a close.

Hey guys, do you know Dorner is the police officer who pushed to get the officers responsible for Kelly Thomas' death? He was disciplined for turning on his superiors, even though he did it in justice of Thomas' murder. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/02/09/1185861/-Did-Chris-Dorner-Get-a-Raw-Deal-From-The-LAPD-Read-the-Court-s-Opinion-In-His-Disciplinary-Appeal This man may have lost it and is guilty of killing many people, BUT, there's more to the story than the media is telling us. I think it's just exposes the corruption in the police-force in LA, unfortunately manifesting itself in a crappy way.

I'd like to say we had an incredible presence there today, on such short notice. However, I'm completely disgusted by the Committee. Chairman Pervert Charles Mainor is a disgrace to this nation. He deserves to be the right-hand man of some Communist dictator. Without a doubt, he is a sack of horse manure. With a 95% pro-gun audience, he simply scoffed at all of us, and licked the feet of the few nonsensical anti-gunners who came.

I'm assuming these people will be there tomorrow. I'm trying to find a color ink-cartridge so I can bring a copy of this tomorrow and present it to the committee.

Good sir, I appreciate the edits. I shall read the speech as revised.

I revised my previous speech. What do you guys think??? I am making it clear that I do not believe any of the bills proposed would make a difference in reducing gun-related deaths. My reasoning is that there are two causes for murder, poverty and mental illness, and the proposed bills do nothing for either cause. In this bleak economy, people are resorting to crime to pay for their needs. Since most criminals obtain guns through the black market, any and all of the proposed legislation would only restrict the law-abiding citizens’ ability to fight off criminals. Criminals will still find a way to illegally obtain firearms. I may cite that the Prohibition-era is a prime example of the success of the black market. Just as the critically-acclaimed economist Steven D. Levitt has said in response to gun control, “...regulation of a legal market is bound to fail when a healthy black market exists for the same product.” Columbine, Virginia Tech, Aurora, and Sandy Hook were all performed by people with mental illness. The state of mental healthcare in America is feeble, to say the least. The belief that “removing guns from the hands of law-abiding citizens will put a stop to massacres” is absurd. The mentally-disturbed assailants of the previously-said massacres had planned their attacks, and to say that they couldn’t do it without other means, such as homemade explosives, is naïve. I suggest a few solutions: 1. Help improve the economy by relieving the tax burden placed on New Jersey’s citizens. Cut government spending, and allow businesses to grow, so that our citizens can get jobs with decent wages. 2. Use the existing government treasury to support the research and treatment of mental illness. In closing, many people are leaving New Jersey because of the high taxes and high-strung regulations that make it hard to live here. If you trample on our right to self-defense even further than it already has been, even more people will leave, too. Besides, how do you expect the government of NJ to stay afloat when there’s no one left in the state to tax?

IANAL. My understanding is that, by current law which might or might not change, the police can only find out if you've been in treatment if you've been part of PUBLIC records. I think there are two systems of medical data, one that is public and openly available to the .gov, and one that is private and accessible to private insurance companies. If you've ever been committed, held for overnight observation, ordered by the court to receive treatment, or even use the hospital system for advice/treatment, you will be under the PUBLIC system. If you've gone on your own accord to see a counselor or medical doctor, you will be under the PRIVATE system (unless you exhibited severe suicidal tendencies, which then your practitioner could report your behavior). Basically, my understanding is that you should not feel compelled to answer yes if you've simply seen a professional due to temporary stress or anxiety. We all are "mental" at some point in our lives. http://www.newjerseyhunter.com/article57666.htm Read the 5th and 16th posts. Kinda sums it up. Again, I am NOT a lawyer.

That's like bringing a child rape-victim to an extremist-feminist rally, using the poor soul as an excuse to bash men.

Unfortunately, mine's a bit long, but I make my intention clear from the get-go. Dear Members of the Assembly, I am sending this email in regards to the proposed gun control legislation. I am making it clear that I do not believe any of the bills proposed would make a difference in reducing gun-related deaths. My reasoning is that there are two causes for murder: poverty and mental illness. The bleak economy has cost many people of their jobs, and have left those already unemployed with little hope. What causes people to sell drugs, join gangs, rob stores, and mug and murder others for money? Poverty. Without a decent-paying job, people resort to crime to pay for their needs. By banning guns, you do not address this underlying issue. Since most criminals obtain guns through the black market, any and all of the proposed legislation would only restrict the law-abiding citizens’ ability to fight off criminals. Criminals will still find a way to illegally obtain firearms. I may cite that the Prohibition-era is a prime example of the success of the black market. Just as the critically acclaimed economist Steven D. Levitt has said in response to gun control, “...regulation of a legal market is bound to fail when a healthy black market exists for the same product.” Columbine, Virginia Tech, Aurora, and Sandy Hook were all performed by people with mental illness. It’s sickening to think how little help and attention these disturbed people were given in their lives. The state of mental healthcare in America is “backwards” in my opinion. Mental illness is so stigmatized that most people tend to deny that they or their loved ones have any issues. At that point, what happens is that the anguish and emotions build up in their brains into something demonic and horrific, which leads to the worst. If these people do seek treatment, much of the time they are prescribed psycho-active narcotics (such as Valium, Xanax, Prozac, and Ritalin) that re-wire their brain’s chemistry. A lot of these people become addicted, and some suffer from severe side-effects, such as suicidal tendencies. To say that “removing guns from the hands of law-abiding citizens will put a stop to massacres” is absurd. The mentally-disturbed assailants of the previously-said massacres had planned their attacks, and to say that they couldn’t do it without other means, such as homemade explosives, is naïve. I suggest a few solutions: 1. Help improve the economy by relieving the tax burden placed on New Jersey’s citizens. Cut government spending, and allow businesses to grow, so that our citizens can get jobs with decent wages. 2. Use the existing government treasury to support the research and treatment of mental illness. Establish “gun free zones”, ban online ammunition sales, require in-home inspections (which violate both the 2nd and 4th amendments, might I add). Pass all of the restrictive legislation you want, but if you don’t follow my two suggestions, you are wasting your time. In closing, many people are leaving New Jersey because of the high taxes and high-strung regulations that make it hard to live here. If you trample on our right to self-defense even further than it already has been, even more people will leave, too. Besides, how do you expect the government of NJ to stay afloat when there’s no one left in the state to tax? Regards, Mark Pieciak EDIT: I think I'll be using this as my speech at the hearing. I'm sure I can get this under 2 minutes.

I just registered. How does one register for the bus again? EDIT: SWEET! Buses are free! NJ2AS is seriously the best. I'm becoming a member right f**king now!

This person must've been born before the Roe vs. Wade decision.

If I'm correct, the lower is what's considered the actual "rifle".

I'm trying to find out if I could go, and I was going to bring up mental illness and poverty being the two major causes of violent crime, but what ou said is absolutely true. It relates back to taxation and the strain on the economy in NJ, furthering poverty.

District 22 are all Democrats. I've destroyed their voicemails and talked to all of their secretaries. None have ever gotten back to me. They're either wishy-washy or will simply vote yes on any of those bills for the sake of being a Democrat. *Sigh*.

Can anyone also believe that he is 61?!?! The man looks 10 years younger than Obama!

No, it never does, Mr. Colandro. As they say in training for the Navy Seals, "the only easy day was yesterday." My god, is that becoming even more apparent.

Let's do this... Once our battle is done in NJ, regarding all the BS legislation we're fighting (and hopefully we'll win), we should organize on this forum to bring as many NJGF members down there. Who's down?

There, I corrected it for you.

WHY THE HELL is this man NOT in the White House, dictating our healthcare policy? This is what I've been preaching forever. Regardless, this Doctor is an amazing speaker.

1. Unconverted Saiga, in 7.62. 2. Glock 19 3. Ruger Mini 14 4. Lee Enfield No.4 5. Another Saiga, in 5.56 6. Winchester 1300 Defender <----- YUMMY

Nice. The people who the gun-grabbers say will protect us, in fact aren't legally obliged to do so and are caught murdering people. Sweet.

Any update on the bill???