anactivegrenade

Old Dog, it's unfortunate that you're unable to use .45 acp handguns anymore - but, when life gives you lemons, tell the lemons to f*ck off. Thanks for your input. I cannot wait to get all these .45's once I'm finally 21.

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Same. My last name is fairly unique. PS - Damn it, there are two other people in the US with my name, one of them having my same middle initial as well. He's from Mass. and is 60-something, so hopefully he's some nice liberal lapdog that's never done anything bad, lmfao.

How's the FN feel? I understand its double-stack, 15 rounds, and polymer? Bulky at all, let's say compared to a 92fs?

Now that Christie vetoed the rest of the bills (thank God), we must do two things: go on the offensive to expand our 2A rights here in NJ, and figure out what these new laws actually mean. So far I've seen a divide in what people are interpreting of what this new law means. Some believe it violates HIPPA and gains access to our private records, making them known to the federal gov't. Others have said that this law only reports current "public" records to the federal gov't. One member has mentioned how we sign away our HIPPA rights to NJ and its designees when filling out the FID/P2P application, so we're royally screwed. If that were the case, wouldn't NJ have already looked into out private records if that much power was already granted to the state?

Hey guys, I've been browsing for handguns lately (turning 21 in November), and have been looking at Sigs. The single-stack 45acp Sig P220 looks awesome, and has a great reputation. Sig Sauer did just release their new double-stack 45acp Sig P227, though. Anyone have any experience with this gun yet? Could anyone give me a comparison of the two? (Aside from the fact one is single-stack, the other is double). Or should I say "screw Sig, I'm getting a 15-round 45acp polymer handgun!"???

Why not check out a Ruger or a Savage?

I haven't done my research on him, but man, almost every Cuban I know is a raging Reagan-conservative.. fingers crossed!!!

HAHAHAHAHA he was making it rain on him on the stage. Holy crap, this is gonna be great.

Vlad, is there any call to action against her in PA? Have you guys over there been working on coming up with something to deal with that Commie?

Keep calling guys. Anyone viewing this thread who hasn't called, keep at it.

Called, done. Gus, they are literally keeping a tally for these bills. The secretary knew why I called before I even explained myself. "I'm strongly opposed to all bills. Sweeney's bill in particular would cost the state millions of dollars to revamp a system that is not broken. And I understand out-of-state groups are lobbying the Governor to sign these bills. These groups can buzz off because they are not from New Jersey. Again, strongly opposed. Good day, ma'am."

Yes, I have donated and joined NJ2AS. Point taken.

In the news, on Friday, Governor Christie signed 10 gun control bills, two of them negatively impacting law-abiding gun-owners. In other news, the members of the NJGunForums are more focused on motorcycles than the new gun laws getting rammed down our throats. Couldn't help it. LOL.

I pray what you and kman say is true. There are others who are saying that NJ will in fact violate HIPAA to do this. But you are right, NJ cannot turmp Federal law.

Called Nappen's office. He's being bombarded with phone calls. They took my message, and hopefully they'll get back.

mipafox, what 5th4x4 is saying is that the previous posts on this thread did not include actually quotes of the bill, thus not giving us some concrete evidence to look at. kman just refrenced the bill. This is what worried me the most. Although the rest of your post scares me, especially of the vagueness and power of this new law, this is what I was looking for. I would find it Orwellian and 1984-esque if they had access to private doctor's records and used that to disqualify people. I'm calling Evan Nappen's office at 9am to let him know some of our concerns addressing this bill. Hopefully he will be able to give this law review and help us with understanding it further.

So now we have to wait and see how this all happens in application/reality, and what kind of appeals process will be made for those who are flagged?

Yes, that is what I meant. Being treated in NJ, then being affected nationwide. Guys, I'd like to say that the People's Republik of New Jersey has royally f*cked us all in the a**.

But if these records are reported to the National Instant Check Service.....????

So, on a federal level, anyone whos had anything to do with mental-health treatment, is now barred from purchasing firearms - anywhere in the country? (because of this NJ law?)

siderman, the two-party system is a failure. We either get a pro-government Rpublican, or a pro-government Democrat. We're all screwed in the end.

Now, the state has access to private records, whereas before, only public records of involuntary treatment could have flagged you against gun ownerhsip. So, can someone please tell me whether or not something minor as seeing a shrink to have someone to talk to, voluntarily, can now flag you against gun ownership in NJ?

I'm voting for Barbara Buono this November. If I'm going to get f***ed in the a**, I'd at least like to have my butt-buddy be upfront about it, and not tease me with the thought of freedom.

Exactly. They're both boys who were criminals-to-be, and thankfully, have been eradicated before more crime was commited.