jauslong

Went to the range with my brand new FID and P2P today and wrapped my paws around half of the pistols on the shelf. The two that felt the best to me was the Beretta M9 and the Magnum Research Baby Eagle, also in 9mm. I was lucky to get to rent a 92fs there today, and I liked it, but don't seem to have access to shooting a Baby Desert Eagle to compare. How do I decide which to go for? Or better yet, knowing that I like the heavy full size feel of both of those guns, does anyone have any other suggestions that I should look into? Assume that I will only buy one handgun ever. Not necessarily true, but for the near future it is.

Got the call from West Orange this morning. FID and 1 P2P. Letter "L". Now I'm off to the "what should I get?" thread.

Anyone with any news in West Orange? I was told last week, "if i haven't called you, it's not done." Which is actually less reassuring than what I was told previously.

Just called West Orange, same story, waiting on mental health records. I asked whether they had received any back and whether they were coming in alphabetical order. She said they've been coming in bits and spurts and that they aren't in alphabetical order. Not sure what to make of that.

I don't really agree with you, but this post is hilarious. I think the answer is that there is a lot more ineptitude and laziness that goes on in gov't work than there are bad intentions. People don't take these jobs because they are the smartest hardest working people in the world. No offense to anybody here, but genius workaholics tend not to work for their local town government. I doubt Detective X gives a crap eitherway.

http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=6096941216391043989&hl=en&as_sdt=2&as_vis=1&oi=scholarr Adler v. Livak It basically says that when the police exceed the 30 days rule because they are waiting for records, it is allowed because it is not the legislative intent to award an FID when no background check has been completed and it would be unfair to deny automatically after 30 days. Now, if you have a PD that is sitting on your completed application, that may be a different issue, and you may be able to get injunctive relief in that case (meaning the court tells the PD to do it by x date, and they may be in contempt if they do not).

Everyone is always talking about the 30 day rule, but I recall there being a case from the appellate division that says its ok to exceed 30 in the public interest. While there is plenty to find fault in that court opinion, it seems pretty clear to me that waving around letters citing the 30 day rule isn't going to accomplish much. Curious to see that Wall Street Journal article.

Took me about three months just to find this thread. Congrats everybody for doing such a great job keeping up the pressure. I've been waiting on West Orange since end of November. It's crazy that there are people who are waiting since EARLY october on records that were destroyed in LATE october.

Note that you cannot carry a knife "for self-defense". You have to have a lawful purpose for carrying the knife. Self-defense is not a lawful purpose, it is a defense to a crime. Eating apples is a delicious and lawful purpose. BTW, that isn't legal advice, so call an attorney rather than rely on anything I say.

Unfortunately, these rampages are going to keep happening because the media over-covers them. Every nutjob with a gruge sees that the way to get attention is to do what those columbine kids did. Ever since then, they make these people into celebrities and for some, that's all that they wanted to begin with.

Thanks everybody. These are all helpful. I'm in West Orange but spend a lot of weekends out in Blairstown and Lake Hopatcong area. The bulk of my shooting will be in btown. I'm planning to move out there as soon as we find a house we like.

Waiting patiently for my FID and P2P and I think I have a pretty good idea what my first purchase will be. Let me know your thoughts, experiences, suggestions, etc. I've got two toddlers in the house and a wife who is willing to shoot a little bit, but not thrilled with the idea of a gun in the house with the kids around. So far, we've agreed on a revolver that is stainless steel on the thinking that the gun will look different than the average toy gun and will be easy to recognize for the kids as NOT a toy. I am leaning towards a Ruger Super Six Convertible 22 LR / 22 Mag for a few reasons: 1) I like that this is a single action. It feels safer to me. Of course I don't anticipate any time where the kids would have access to the gun, but if they did, they would have to know to cock the hammer before it could be fired. This seems like added safety to me. Am I wrong here? 2) I think my wife is more comfortable with a 22 and a revolver. She has little interest in going bigger or more modern. Her being comfortable is important in this process, so that counts for a lot. 3) I like that 22 LR ammo is practically free and not as loud. I intend to get a lot of practice out of this gun. 4) I like that the 22 Mag offers slightly more power. It offers my wife an opportunity to try something slightly bigger, and makes the gun somewhat more useable for home defense. 5) There is only enough in the budget for one gun this year. Getting the convertible as a first gun kind of feels like I'm actually getting two for one. Next purchase is likely a rifle. 6) This seems to me to be a very high quality gun. So, first, how would I even go about trying this gun out before buying it? Or should I just go for it, with the idea that it probably wont be the last gun I'll ever get and will hopefully retain its value fairly well? Are there any other guns that you'd recommend I look into instead? I have pretty big hands. Anything in the above that you disagree with that might cause me to reconsider? Thanks everybody for your help.

I don't think this post got sufficient credit for its thoughtfulness. I voted for Obama. If you are reading this, you probably didn't. That's ok. We have elections because it beats running out into the streets and killing each other over who should get power. Thing is, I didn't vote for Obama because I'm an idiot or because I hate America or because I want a totalitarian communist facism. I voted for him for real reasons that reflect my priorities and analysis of what would be best for me and for the country. I bet you voted for someone else for the same reasons. That's ok. That's the whole point of having an election. If you really like having guns so much, and would like the laws here in NJ to be less strict, maybe the way to accomplish that is not by verbally abusing the people who have the ability to help your cause, i.e. other voters. If you show people that you are prone to tirades and outbursts, I don't blame them for not wanting to give you a gun.

That's cause that guy is a tool. Haha. Couldn't resist.

Having just submitted my fingerprints today, I think the real news in this thread is that it only took two months to get your FID. They told me at the station that it would be 6 - 8 months, which seems outrageous.