SkiingGunMonkey

My point was that if you can take the magazine apart, without destroying it, and can turn it into a 20 round magazine it's illegal. Just having the replacement piece doesn't make it illegal, but my point was having a limiter attached to the follower inside the magazine body with the base plate NOT pinned and epoxied would, in my opinion, be illegal because it's easy to just swap out the piece in effect making the modification non permanent and not legal.

If you can take the magazine apart and all it takes is replacing a single piece to make it a 20 round magazine it was not permanently modified to not be a large capacity magazine making it illegal. I'm not a lawyer, that's my interpretation and what I believe to be the consensus here as well.

If you have the capacity to remove the limiter though it's no longer permanent. I do agree that if you epoxied it to the follower that would be a better approach, but since it can be easily replaced it's also not permanent. I would love it if Ty chimed in as well. It's your call and your ass in the end so you get the final call.

Given how midwest does these modifications, I'm assuming they just slide in a block in between the spring to stop the follower from moving any lower. This way they can keep the stock spring. They then just epoxy and pin the baseplate on. In this case, and most other cases of 15/20 or 15/30 pmags, it would be illegal to remove the baseplate and in theory you shouldn't be able to without destroying the magazine otherwise it wouldn't count as a permanent mod. I'm somewhat glad OP wasn't able to remove the baseplate even after fishing out the pins.

If you disassemble a magazine that is modified to 15 rounds by way of an internal block the second you take such a magazine apart it becomes a "large capacity magazine" because it's now NOT permanently modified to hold 15 or fewer rounds. Further, if you have the capacity to easily take such a magazine apart it's not considered permanently modified. There certain examples in NJ law as to what permanently modified ISN'T, but none of what IS considered permanent "Large capacity ammunition magazine" means a box, drum, tube or other container, which is capable of holding more than 15 rounds of ammunition to be fed continuously and directly therefrom into a semi-automatic firearm. A large capacity ammunition magazine that has been permanently altered so that it is not capable of holding more than 15 rounds of ammunition will cease to be defined as a "large capacity ammunition magazine." An ammunition magazine, which has been temporarily blocked or modified from holding more than 15 rounds, as by a piece of wood or a pin, is still considered to be a "large capacity ammunition magazine."

They are meant to be permanent modifications, if you could take them apart easily by pushing out a few pins they wouldn't be NJ legal. Assuming you're doing this at a friend's house in PA, I wouldn't post about it here.

You could also build up a really nice 22 AR off the TACCOM upper and standard AR lower. These seem to be very accurate, and really neat looking.l I have an upper on order:

I didn't see your post hah.

I took this class on 5/19 and had a great experience. The guys make the apps a breeze and give you everything you need to just send your application off. Very helpful and open, it's definitely a basic class, but a good place to start and would make a great first class for someone who makes only occasional range trips. I would have preferred more in the live fire department, but I can totally understand with the weather. We did meet and exceed all the requirements for live fire for the FL application so I don't mind terribly. I'm definitely set on taking their CCW 1/2 classes and hope to sneak in their rifle class as Cameron and his crew were great and knowledgeable.

I have one on order as well. Building up a dedicated 22 rig. Everything I read on arfcom says these things should be good to go. I've seen one go KABOOM from a squib load, but that's to be expected. The barrel shroud/tensioner should keep your hands safe.

Great item, great transaction. Wasn't the first and probably won't be the last time we do business!

Would be an AR-10 at that point, but I have an OBR 7.62 coming and I'm very eager! Great platform with a great round.

I thought they were banning things based on Muzzle Energy? Isn't this below the threshold?

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Why would you want ranger plates on a 10 round mag?

Good look, grabbed a couple had 3 from DSG and 3 from these guys. Should be all set for some benchrest shooting!

No way....

The ones that came in were from: http://dsgarms.com/ Order Time: 4/5/2013 1:13:04 PM So about 2 weeks.

Just got 3 of these in. They're REALLY nice and great for bench shooting. They're hard to find, but I preordered with a few places and just got some in (~2 weeks). The dust cover won't clip on the bottom on these either. Other than that solid stuff that you expect from Magpul. Some info: http://store.magpul.com/product/MAG559/PMAG

Yup, both of mine came in!

I ordered a couple to Allentown and there were 4-5 others that were there as well. Mine WEREN'T handpicked and were by far nicer than the others which were, with less ME and much better bolts. So YMMV

Next up is Utah I bet.

I'd like to see what they're using to make that claim. Can't just take the ACLU at face value, or any other organization.

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2010/12/breaking-news-eff-victory-appeals-court-holds Lots of things going against this.

I also ordered 2, got charged on my CC and still nothing. He said he was going to drop ship and give me the tracking asap...