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Didn't want to make a new thread and I hate to thread jack but is there any gunshops you would reccomend in the burlington county or camden county area?

Last update: Got the call from the PD secretary saying my i.d and permits are ready!!! Damn it has been too long. If anyone has any questions regarding my process or district 7 feel free to ask!

Thank you. I just received an email from Cabelas for some ammo that was back ordered and due for Monday back ordered again for the 25th of March. This will come in handy.

magna cart or bust! seriously a good bugout bag and 200 rnds of each caliber in which I own would suit me quite well.....

Thanks! I see you're in the neighboring town and frequent the same range as me too.

&--#60;-- 4 months and 22 days this guy has been waiting. I've been in the same dilemma so trust me when I say you are not ALONE! My background information came back but I was told by the police captain that he was not signing off on permits because crimes, murders, and thefts all take precedence over issuing gun permits. Frustrated and desperate I contacted my assemblyman (Senator Diane Allen)® in my district(7) to assist on my behalf as to why my permits and I.d. were being held up. A quick email/letter to the Senators office on wednesday yielded great results by friday. She also mailed a nice letter to my residence yesterday ccing an inquiry email she sent to my municipality on the issue. For better words, my assemblyman inquired on my behalf why my permits and i.d took so long. I highly reccomend contacting your assemblyman, what's the worst that could happen?

Update: Good news! It seems my visit/email/fax to Senator Diane Allens office motivated my local police department to follow up with my references and complete my application. I received a call yesterday evening from a detective at the municipal building trying to inquire about my references. He also asked for a direct number to my supervisor at work which I was hesitant at first to give but ended up giving anyway. I was giddy with excitement so I didn't bother to ask why he needed the number. The detective also stated that my I.D and permits will be ready next week. Is it legal or possible for the Police Department you reside in to contact your employer? I'm assuming it is to verify employment only correct? To add icing on the cake, I received a nice letter with a gold seal yesterday from the office of Senator Diane Allen stating she had taken action and contacted the Public Safety Director of my township to find out why I have been waiting for so long. Today both of my references called me and let me know they were contacted by the same detective I spoke to about character references. I'm not out of the fog yet but I can only hope... I will create a seperate thread regarding my experience to answer questions and help others who might be in the same dilemna.

I should have, at this point i'm not concerned with stepping on any toes! Thanks I will look into this route as I am planning to join.

I'd like to assume anyone who purchases ammo for that price was born with a few extra chromosomes. I only posted it because of the free offer

Update: The Captain returned my call once again and fed me the same bs stating that there is a murderer on the loose and aprehending him takes precedence over approving gun permits. I explained my situation and when I told him waiting 5 months was unacceptable he responded by saying there are other citizens waiting 7-8 months. I haven't heard back from the senators office but hope to by the end of this week. I feel sick to my stomach knowing that municipalites can do this with no reprecussion. If anyone has any further advice or information on how to handle this situation, it would be greatly appreciated!

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Minor update: I went to the police department once again today after little success yesterday making no further progress. Today the captain was off or unavailable so I opted to speak to his secretary which is the same woman I dealt with prior. I was told to leave a note AGAIN and it would be placed on the captains desk. When I tried to explain that the delay of my permits or I.D. was unacceptable I was given the bs line that murders, crimes, thefts blah blah all take precedence. Fed up I decide to contact the senator for my district (#7) which is Diane Allen. I spoke directly with her director regarding my issue and was informed that I need to give consent for the senator to contact my municipality on my behalf. I am currently composing an email as I type this with hopes that my issue will be heard.

Hey njgf I have a quick question, is there a way to verify my background applicant status with njsp? If so, is there a number I can contact? I'm about to go speak with the police captain of my municipality in a short while and I would like to be prepared as possible. I figure having any and every possible piece of information in regards to my permits and I.D. would help. I've heard of townships claiming they're waiting on the state to return the background check so I want to be covered in all aspects. unimportant side note: I hold a DoD clearance and receiving that took less amount of time.

How do you like that vice? I'm considering the Tipton best gun vice but considering all options and have yet to see yours...

Well i'll be the second to mention a polymer gun. I'm currently waiting on my permits but I hope that RRA releases their polymer frame 1911 in .45acp that has been in the works for quite a while. I know it's sacrilege but I don't care!

Thanks for sharing your experience Jonesey! I didn't mind the word fortress too much.. We sound very similar in demeanor and it seems we have a similar experience with this PD and I believe we dealt with the same rude secretary. I was actually just about to update my experience with Willingboro PD. 109 Days I received a call from the Captain at the PD a few moments ago. I will admit I was surprised at the initial call but not at the information given. -Was told to wait 4 more weeks - the reason the process was delayed is due to short staffing and rise in violent crime with emphasis on armed robberies I followed the rules now so should they no excuses! *For the record the Police Captain did answer my questions to the best of his knowledge and was very polite in addressing me. That did put me somewhat at ease and prove me wrong that everyone who works there has their own personal agenda.

thanks for the welcomes guys! heres my update: 107 days since submission @ Willingboro PD I planned on going to my municipal building at 9am sharp yesterday but unfortunately that didn't happen. I did manage to make it there later on in the afternoon. I decided not to waste my time calling numbers as it seems to have gone nowhere. I did however manage to speak to the clerk/secretary and once again she was very unhelpful. I asked if my references have been contacted or the status of my F.I.D. and permits. She reiterated that it was not a priority in the police department and that she only recieved the documents when they were approved and completed. I brought up the 30 day statute only to be swat down as they don't follow that procedure. I asked if she could point me towards someone more knowledgeable and she was unable to do that. She was however willing to take my information AGAIN to forward to the Captain and I would recieve a call by the end of this week. I'm doubtful that will happen but if I don't hear from them after friday it's looking like I'll have to show up again and ask to speak to the captain directly. I just can't stand it when I have to pester someone or ask someone to do THEIR job. I certainly do my job as a law abiding citizen and go through the proper channels to obtain a firearm yet the people in charge can't? Taking that 15 minute drive to Camden is sooooo enticing right now. end rant update/

thanks rifleman! @ hd thanks. I posted my township information yesterday in the compliancy thread so hopefully someone chimes in. update: I called the secretary desk early this morning with no answer again. My phone call(s) haven't been returned all week unless she's been on vacation. I'm going to try contacting a detective next. sidenote: I know I come off as paranoid and impatient hence the screename but I believe I speak for all gun applicants in NJ when I say I've waited long enough

thanks for the quick response hd! I may have worded my first question wrong. My PD trusted me to give my references their forms and letters have them fill them out and return them along with the other standard forms for submission. To my understanding this is completely opposite of what is normal so I'm wondering is this delaying me? My references have also not been contacted. Ok that is great advice. I have only contacted the clerk/secretary so far and she has been less than helpful with a personal agenda and bad attitude. I will try contacting her office once again then I will try contacting one of the detectives then chief if no luck. I will also look into the NJ2AS program since so many people I have spoken to reccomend I join.

Haha wow thanks for the welcome. I have a few questions for some of the seasoned members here they can be yes or no but an explanation would be much appreciated. -Currently 103 days - When originally submitting my paperwork my municpality (Willingboro) gave me my character reference forms to give to each of my references. Could this delay my process? -Do I have to speak directly to the clerk/secretary although she handles the permits? Can I possibly contact a detective or the chief of police? I just don't want to step on any toes but I am getting frustrated with my township

102 days here at Willingboro PD. I keep receiving the run around aka don't call us we'll call you. I've tried contacting the secretary/clerk with no luck. I may have to go this route....

Ok here's my situation: -Submitted all paperwork to Willingboro PD Oct 1, 2012. -Waited until November 2012 to contact the clerk or secretary. No dice. - Went to PD 1/7/12 no one was available to help. - Contacted Willingboro PD via phone today (1/10/12) no answer but left a voicemail -102 days and counting and fed up

Hey njgf names al, I'm from South Jersey particularly Burlington County. I've lurked on here for the past month or so and have learned quite a bit in that short amount of time. I am not new to guns and have been firing/practicing gun safety since I was young. I am however waiting on my F.I.D and two pistol purchase permits. I've only had a memberhsip to R.A.F (Ready Aim Fire) in Bristol, Pa and have been satisfied with them. I'm here to learn as much as possible as well as hurry up and wait.

I was recommended here by some folks on the NASIOC forums.