ryan_j

I've been hearing anecdotal reports that members of the state legislature and also judges can get permits to carry a handgun. But at least one assemblyperson has said that they or a family member of theirs was denied. So is it true, or is it not? I'm not counting people like Charles Mainor, because he's a detective and can carry as a LEO.

The backstory to this is a shooting that happened in Philly, where a Philly resident named Marqus Hill shot someone trying to break into his car. He was initially disqualified from getting a PA LTCF because of a confrontation he had with police and later assaulted a police officer after he lost his appeal, He then got a Florida permit instead, which he could legally carry with. And with that FL permit (and a gun, obviously), he was able to shoot an unarmed 18 year old. When Kane was running for AG, she had this as part of her campaign platform and even ran ads saying she would "close the Florida loophole." Bloomberg pumped money into her campaign and she won, because among other things people weren't happy how the previous AG handled the Penn State/Sandusky scandal. So things began to tighten up. Kane started with Florida and modified the reciprocity agreements to make it for residents only. Then she went with AZ and VA. Utah wasn't an issue because Utah doesn't issue a permit to a PA resident unless you have a LTCF. This is, in a nutshell, why it is how it is. But the good news is that there was a court case, McKown which clarified that residents who wish to carry concealed (and open in Philly) need to have a PA LTCF and cannot carry on an out of state permit. So now Kane really has no reason to touch anything else, because mission accomplished, PA residents cannot carry on a nonresident permit. And it makes sense - if you are a PA resident, it's easy to get a LTCF as long as you have no disqualifying factors, unless you live in Philadelphia. So why not get one?

I think most people are indifferent. The vocal ones are anti, but most people really couldn't care. Pro gun people figure they'll stick it out for a while, and maybe later on move out of state (usually to Pennsylvania, so they can still be close to their beloved NJ and NYC). They feel that it's hopeless and useless to fight and it's a never ending uphill battle. To some extent they are right, but the irony is that by doing this they worsen the situation. Democrats can pull the big cities who are fed up of the illegal guns and gangbangers.

Wow. I remember staying at a Wyndham in downtown DC in the early 00s for 50 bucks a night. Looks like things have certainly gone up. But then again DC is a boom town now.

One thing I enjoyed in DC was the Capitol steps. They are a political satire performing group. I saw them during the height of the Bush years and they lampooned everyone including and especially the TSA. They are former senate staffers and they are HILARIOUS. They perform at the Ronald Reagan building. http://www.capsteps.com

There are others but the catch is you must get a permit from your home state first, which is no go for >99% of NJ residents. NH now requires a home state permit for issuance or renewal of a non-resident LTC. Texas works as well but you need to take the Texas CHL class in Texas and qualify, and it's not as cheap as the Utah. Last year she (Kane) dropped non-resident FL, VA, AZ. ME and MS were already residents only. ND is a bit bizarre as they decided to say "FU" to anti states like NJ and not issue any permits to them and revoke those who had them. But you can still carry on FL, UT and others. Very, very strange. http://www.ag.state.nd.us/BCI/CW/reciprocity.htm

Also this is handy: http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/pennsylvania.pdf

This is like the 5th hit when you google "PA CCW" http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/crime.aspx?id=184 That's straight from the horse's ass... err mouth.

If you're using a transfer switch or interlock, you don't need to separately ground the generator. It is grounded through your panel and house ground.

That's correct and I'm fine with that. But if someone is to go to jail, the evidence used to convict them should be obtained properly and lawfully. As the NJSP likes to tell ME when I apply for a permission slip to buy guns, "there is a process."

Correct me if I'm wrong, but won't NICS will reject you based on OGAM since NJSP is the point of contact?

I have a very good friend who is a retired CO, worked at Rahway for years but did transport later in his career. He's very pro gun, and very pro civilian gun ownership. I get the impression that the rank and file are very pro but the top cops like police chiefs and assemblyman charles mainor are anti.

Problem is in NJ you have only limited exemptions for transport. Either you're going to one of those exempted places or you're going out of state and are covered under FOPA.

Half correct. They made a deal with Krispie Kreme to open a warehouse in South Jersey but agreed to start collecting sales tax like a year before it opened. It was a deal they struck with the Governor. But even so, this applies only to items sold by Amazon.com. Marketplace sellers, even those that are "fullfilled by Amazon" and thus can ship prime are not required to collect NJ sales tax. I order iPhone parts from third party sellers and they do not collect the tax. But anyway, you owe the tax regardless. YOu are supposed to fill it out on your state tax return.

Mandatory in Georgia in some towns.

People fly out of Newark all the time with firearms. I'm curious as to what they're covered under though, since the 3rd circuit seems to indicate they are not covered by FOPA. If she's moving I guess that could be a valid exemption?

I can agree with this to an extent, but there's the other side of the coin - which FFLs are pushing back against this? I support FFLs that vocally push back against the establishment. Despite complying with unreasonable laws, at least they are not just staying silent. And so far they haven't been shut down either.

Well, it is extremely easy to go out of state and buy your black, scary rifles there. So there's your option.

What about pink rifles?

It lets you transport it unloaded. Doesn't have to be cased.

They also have the regular M&P15 for 575. They are an excellent shop and have a TON of guns and ammo!!! I might spring for an M&P15/22 as well.

Yep. Don't really want to violate the forum rules, but that's pretty much it. Less than 600 bucks you can own a scary black rifle. Haven't shot it yet, but I'll be going to the range soon.

Well, come and take it mother-effers

Lol They are cheap now though. Ask me nicely and I will tell you where to get one at a great price. I plan to have a lot of fun putting holes in paper and burying lead in the dirt berms at the range.

I have 4 years at least. Who knows what will happen.