ryan_j

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Not "technically" not breaking any laws... there is no law against magazine transport across state lines, only laws about possession in each state (as you pointed out with NY).

Steve Stockman is awesome. http://aattp.org/disgusting-teapublican-steve-stockman-says-liberal-tears-are-the-best-gun-lubricant/

What super secret forum is that? I'm not a paid member.

If NJ could ban fists and feet, they would.

So far I don't know of any groups that have gotten laws repealed or struck down. I do know of a few individuals. Jeremy Perez for starters. He hired Nappen and sued his city and the court sided with him. Oh and Chris Christie did veto some laws last year, but every gun group, from the NRA to ANJRPC and NJ2AS is claiming credit for it. I think NJ2AS had a lot to do with it, but so did ANJRPC.

Nappen is challenging NH and he's doing it pro bono!

I haven't heard of anyone vowing to destroy NJ2AS. I've heard of people saying they'll do their own actions if NJ2AS doesn't help them... I've also heard of one guy saying we shouldn't fight for CCW because "CCW makes us look like a bunch of gun nuts.." Really WTF?

What ideas were that? I think I missed that.

I haven't gotten IMs like that but I have gotten others (from Frank) saying that people simply aren't pulling their weight. They're not volunteering and they're not helping out. He also said we have a bunch of keyboard commandoes. I am guilty of same so I decided to get off my duff and volunteer. I did the GSOSS show this weekend and I plan to do more events. I think everyone should volunteer and I think if it is true that people aren't volunteering, then maybe Frank is right to get upset about that.

I'm surprised you guys don't know who Ron Soussa is. Ron is a businessman and property developer. He's also a contributor to NJ2AS and the 2A movement in NJ, I believe both financially and in terms of effort. He's also a sponsor of Gun for Hire Radio. He advertises his business - http://www.montvilleoffice.com on GFH radio. From what I know of Ron, he's a good guy. And oh yeah, he also fought (sued, actually) city hall for his business against crony dirty NJ politics and won. So Ron's no cupcake. Now as far as the NJ2AS stuff goes, people were upset that after short hills we didn't take advantage of the moment to bring light of how NJ restrictive gun laws are killing people. Albert Almeida, I'm sure you remember him - he is the guy who was threatened by one of his tenants in Newark and was turned down for a carry permit. He got support from 1 million moms against gun control, and I was told that Frank simply brushed it off and said we don't need them (or something to that effect). He also printed a big banner on the back of his truck telling people that NJ restricts the right to carry, and they should stand up and fight. Albert is no cupcake either, he's a former teamster and really makes no bones about the fight. He's there to fight. Anyway, both of them have had various exchanges with Frank which I won't get into here. Needless to say there's friction between them. People want to do certain things and they don't think they're getting the support. Ron and a few (emphasis on FEW) others were banned by Frank on the facebook group. The reason for the banning is not clear, but it has to do with the friction between these guys. Ron in retaliation started a group called "Banned by NJ2AS" initially as a joke. Frank threatened to sue because he claims it's trademark infringement. Ron changed it to "Banned by NJ2A$$hole." So it has escalated this way. Lots of people were added to the group, most didn't even ask to be added, and wondered WTF was going on. Frank decided to tell people to drop off that group. If you also recall, there was the December meeting where they announced that carry was taking a back seat and that OEC would be at the forefront this year. That I think caused a lot of people to go sour on the society. I didn't like it at all. For me, carry is #1. I care about the permit to purchase thing but I think that we should be fighting hard on all fronts. There are some who feel that Frank isn't open to ideas. Maybe they're right. There are some who feel that Frank is taking things in the right direction. Maybe they're right too. Anyway this is what started the whole thing. Personally I'd like to see Frank at the helm, but I'd like to see people sit down and hash it out. 2014 is not the year to fracture the NJ2AS. We don't want to be another NJCSD. That said, I think there should be support for people like Albert Almeida and Ron Soussa. These guys are willing to fight. I say let them fight.

Someone on NJ2AS facebook said that FFLs got a letter saying that the pistol permit form has now changed. Not the application form but the actual pistol permits. He said it was letter sized and had perforations on both sides. I'm curious as to why the change was made, eg. if the permit has additional info. Does anyone have a copy of the letter they don't mind sharing?

For those of you who think that this will result in the loosening of NJ carry laws, think again. That was the thinking behind supporting LEOSA - make law enforcement a trial balloon and then the rest of the nation will follow. That's fine and dandy except that it's been 10 years and we're still where we were. Just say no, unless they include non-resident permits. Besides, there are plenty of good reasons to want Steve Stockman instead of Conryn.

I see Heritage Guild allows you to select and pay for your firearms and then go pick it up at the store where you do the NICS/PtP thing and take possession. Anyone did this? How about reserving a firearm while you're waiting for permits?

They can and they will. Let me ask you something - what basis will the court force NJ to let residents carry? Answer: none.

A couple people in NJ2AS on Facebook have been waiting 5-6 months through various NJSP barracks. Also just yesterday I was talking to one of the people I was working with at the GSOSS NJ2AS booth and he said it took 5 months for him out of Sussex.

Put in paperwork in Sussex in October, still waiting.

I'm not supporting this bill but it has a snowball's chance in hell. Also the only reason this bill was introduced was because Steve stockman wants to primary conryn. Nothing buta dog and pony show. In the off chance it passes I'm changing my primary residence to Florida.

T mobile doesn't have a lot if coverage up here in sussex county. ATT is better by some but Verizon's still the best up here.

End of term is June

They wouldn't. They want to give the state a chance to respond first. It's not a quick process, it's slow.

Texas did not file a response in McCraw. It was thought that this case would be denied but the S.Ct has now asked for a response. I don't think it will be heard though.

I actually apply directly to NJSP in Sussex (it seems consistent across NJSP barracks) and this is what they require: Completed STS-33 (application) and SP-66 (mental health) forms. DO NOT SIGN your forms. You will sign them at the station. FPID card photo ID (driver license) Proof of citizenship (birth or naturalization certificate or US passport) Check or money order for the permit fees ($2 per permit, can be on a single check of m.o.) Stamped envelopes addressed to your references. In Sussex you need to call the sgt and make an appointment. I believe other barracks may require that. At your appointment the sgt or a trooper will let you sign the forms, take them, photocopy your proof of citizenship, FPID and photo ID. Once your paperwork is submitted, if you don't need fingerprints they tell you to go online and order your background check. They'll give you a sheet with instructions. This replaces the SB212A SBI paper form. If you need fingerprints they'll give you instructions on how to go to sagem morpho and do it. You do not pay $18 at the barracks. You pay $20 online. If you are getting fingerprinted, you pay sagem morpho directly. Be warned that it's taking 6 months to issue permits at NJSP. It's ridiculous, I know.

I don't know why people keep saying that. The offensive part of the law will be struck down and will take effect immediately or after a short stay.

Yeah it's absolutely NOT going to be in today's conference. The state has to be given the opportunity to respond and file a brief in opposition (BIO). Other people or groups could submit amicus (friend of the court) briefs as well before it's distributed for conference. It will be about 3 months and if it's granted cert will likely be heard in the fall with a decision at the end of the term in 2015. So we have a while to wait still.