Howard

Web page Obcats.com says: "Well it is February. MAYBE, just maybe we will have a match this month. Registration will open on February 17th after 7pm." But where is the link, I must be having brain disconnect as I cannot find the registration link.

Great gun, I have the full size. I saw the slightly smaller one in the case at RTSP yesterday - act fast

^^^^THIS sounds like the right answer!

Tell them that nobody needs to be allowed to go to a church of their choosing and that nobody needs to be allowed to speak their mind and that nobody needs to be allowed to vote. Screw them all.

I get to shoot a business card at 7 yards while it is being held by someone there **** Just kidding, that wouldn't be safe...........................of would it?

Well yea, if it does not cover the purchase then true. If that is you concern then just get one for like $25K, that should more than cover your needs Is this for everyone, probably not. But in my case I have a couple of purchases planned and anytime I can save 10% I'll take the free money. I just thought it was a good deal that I would share with others here.

Just got online and bought mine, have you bought yours. I love free money

Only being offered for 24 hours and online through the website is what I was told. I think the thinking is tomorrow the snow might force them to be closed so let's do something to bring in some revenue even though we might not be open - just my guess.

The web page says "These Gift Card can be used for anything in the store! Membership, ammo, training, guns… you name it!" The fee is only if they send it out to you, just make a note is what I was told and you won't be charged that if you pick up the card.

Well I was talking to one of the owners today and made a bet how much he would sell, so I have to promote this online so that I can win the bet. From Midnight tonight till Midnight Thursday they are selling gift cards online and will add 10% to the value of any card you buy. They are good for everything, including guns! Here is the link: http://rtsponline.com/gift-cards/ *** If this in violation of any rules please delete and I apologize in advance.

Six months is totally unacceptable. Be nice but then go wide. Get the local newspapers involved. Ask them why they think this is acceptable. Ask them if it would be fair if people had to wait six months to sign up for food stamps, or welfare, or unemployment. If any of those entities had this problem due to short staff then more staff would be hired. Would it be acceptable to say we will clear the snow in two weeks, we don't have enough staff? This is all BS and needs to stop.

Me too, which model would you suggest???

If you are considering a Beretta 92FS I would suggest you also look at a CZ-75B - I have both an think the CZ is a much better and more accurate gun.

Well it has to be my STI Trojan 9mm 1911, pictured with VZ grips. Although I also like my pair of CZ's in my signature picture.

I would assume the one in Sussex County - but I am like a mushroom, kept in the dark and fed a lot of bullshit

Well I picked an answer in the poll, but so what? You have only stated that you want to use a permit, but why? Just because you have it? Does it make sense to spend $1,000 +/- "X" because you have a permit that you paid $2 for? Your first question needs to be do I want / need another handgun? If the answer is yes, then the next question is what am I going to use it for. Is it for HD, is it for show, is it a range toy? Don't forget is it for competition, and if so what competition. Once you answer these I and many others can make some specific recommendations.

HBecw2ithFn7 while I agree with what you are saying I intentionally made this linked to the Voter ID because I want this guy to accept that Voter ID is a must, and if he is not willing to require ID for the right he wants then I am not willing to require ID for the right I want - but I agree with your concerns. Its funny I have never been asked to show a voter ID card for anything, not even to vote, and never for jury duty. In my town I simply tell them my name, they open a book to my name which has my signature. I then scribble something that does not even look like my signature and they let me vote. They don't match the signature or ask for any form of ID what-so-ever.

Yes, but we are a nation of laws and what you are suggesting is beyond what is ever going to happen.

Fair enough, how do you suggest we go about that?

Way cool, bet some good guy in the graphics department put that in without the hire ups even having a clue!

I have been having a discussion with an "anti" friend (I know I should not use those two words together). He finally agreed that many of our laws are stupid and for debate said he would be willing to throw out all guns laws and start from scratch if I can up with a framework for discussion. Here is what I plan to offer him, after I get some critic here: ======================================================================================================== Thank you so much for killing all these stupid gun laws Jay, as we all know there should be no laws regulating rights. Having laws limiting gun rights is the same as having laws limiting religious rights or the right to vote. So, we are now done. J All kidding aside I think we do need laws to protect our society within reason. So, before we do anything we have to require government issued photo ID before anyone can vote, as that is the most important right in our society as everything else is based on that. Given that we have that, and we fully secure the boarders then we can discuss how to protect society from bad people with guns. I offer the following given that you stipulate to all the above, if you renege on that then all bets are off the table. These rules are to be on a national level with no additional or different laws allowed by any state or other geopolitical entity. In order to own a gun you should have to be of the age to vote and submit your voter ID card so that a background check can be run to make sure you are not a violent criminal or mentally ill, as our goal is to keep guns out of the hands of criminals or others that don’t have the mental capacity to use them in a safe manner. The mental issue is a difficult one because while we want to protect people we don’t want to give the government too much power to arbitrarily take away people’s rights. So, this will require future discussion as how to balance this issue. Once you have been proven to not be a criminal and not be mentally defective you then receive your gun endorsement on your voter ID card which lets you purchase, own and posses your gun(s) in your possession at any time and place of your choosing. This is no different than allowing you to drive your car on any road at anytime of your choosing. Notice we use an innocent until proven guilty approach like in any other law in this country. Possession of a gun without an endorsed voter ID card would entitle said person to a minimum term of one year in jail, and loss of voter ID card for a period of four years which would not allow said person to possess a gun or vote for a period of four years. Any violation, including illegal voting, would earn the person one additional year in jail. The next step is comprehensive non-negotiable penalties for dangerous or deadly use of a gun in any manner other than justifiable self defense or defense of others including the defense of your home or business. Thus, if you are caught shooting at someone’s house, or car or other property there needs to punishment. That penalty should be forfeiture of your right to use a gun for some period of time with violation of that suspension receiving harsher penalty which might be a large fine or jail. Said person would also have to receive counseling to assure us that they understand the safety issues and don’t take such actions a second time. A second offense within five years would require surrender of voter ID card which would not allow said person to take a gun out of their home or vote for a period of four years. Any violation, including illegal voting, would earn the person one year in jail. The next step would be harsh jail sentences for possession of a gun while committing a crime, a violent crime, shooting at a person in other than self defense or defense of others and killing a person or persons in other than self defense or defense of others. Any person(s) brandishing a gun while committing a crime would receive a minimum three year jail sentence. Anyone firing a gun at a person with the intension of causing physical harm or death (aforementioned defense exclusions apply) would receive a mandatory ten year jail sentence. Any appeal of sentences would only be done through a six judge panel (Federal Judges) of which at least four must agree to any reduction – no plea bargains or deals by any other entity allowed. Killing another person outside of the stated exclusions would receive a jail sentence of twenty years but would be increased to thirty years if in the commission of another felony. These punishments would be based on normal jury trial with normal rules of evidence. Since this or these persons had deprived another of life these jail terms would be served in a facility at least 1,000 miles from the person’s home town with no visitation or contact with family allowed for the full term. Only fair since they took away such contact for the victim’s family. In such cases where there was proof positive of killing a different penalty would apply. This would be reserved for public shooting where more than twenty witnesses provide certainty as to the identity of the shooter or where there is video proof positive of the identity of the shooter. In such and only such cases the shooter would receive the death penalty. The only possible appeal of these sentences would be by the aforementioned six judge panel, four votes required to reduce sentence to a minimum of 20 years. The death penalty would be carried out 30 days after the six judge panel finished their review – no extensions. Execution would take place by hanging in a public square and broadcast on the 6pm news for deterrent value.

Thanks. The trick to getting pictures like this is to always have the camera with you. I was just driving down the street in my development and saw a frozen berry tree with about 20 Robins searching for something to eat. Here are a few more shots from that morning:

Sunday's IDPA match is cancelled also

If it didn't make a difference rifles would be handguns The sight radius does help.

^^^^^THIS!