wooly bugger

I've been telling all my out of state friends to call and email Christie to remind him that they're watching, and his actions will determine whether or not they support him in 2016

Most people will just continue to carry their pocketknives without ever hearing about this bill. And for the most part, it won't be enforced, because the line between a knife as tool and weapon has always been blurry. The scary thing is, if they don't like you, it just adds years onto a jail term.

Was a trunk gun ever legal? I though you are allowed to carry only back and forth between the home and range or gunsmith. At least that's what they old us at the ANJRPC orientation.

From within the same city? So, now if they get their way, you'll need *five* references residing in a town where you've just moved to and met your neighbors. I don't think I could line up 5 references from within my town. I just don't know my liberal neighbors well enough to ask them to do that for me.

I'm not as sanguine as you on the "task force" thing. It's a fig leaf, but it could shield him either way. What if he says, "I really wanted to veto these laws, but the people have spoken!" No doubt the task force is a joke. At the Newark meeting, half the members were AWOL, and almost everyone agreed that underlying societal problems were the real issue. Hell, even Corey Booker is saying that on national TV. I look forward to seeing the task force report.

So if I'm following you, you're predicting this works out for us, because he'll blame the task force for not telling him to sign? (sorry, I'm dense.) Can you give us a better feeling for the "vibe" you received? As much as I want to say, fight 100% or everything, I do think we need to prioritize our efforts and will have to throw them a couple of bones. This and the 5 year renewal are my biggest bugaboos. With the 10 or 5 round, as I'd mentioned before, there are many grandfathers born every day, and I doubt 5 round will pass constitutional scrutiny. Home inspection .... hilarity ensues with the ACLU tying itself into knots about how to destroy the 2nd without taking down the 4th.

I think we may be doing just that to some of our assemblymen :-)

If it's on your property, I don't see the problem. But if your neighbors are the types to harass you like that, why cause trouble. Just use Breakfree. And move.

Let's not go overboard, or the whole thing will backfire.

This whole response just shows how out of their league they are. This isn't a friggin middle school bake sale

Out of respect, I'm not going to repost the kids' names. But here's what we're up against. Brace yourselves.....

Here's what I received from "Nicola Bocour": I look forward to seeing everyone on Thursday! I will br driving down, but I will see you all in Trenton! If you are a member of a gun violence prevention organization and have a t-shirt or button with their name on it, you are encouraged to wear that. I will bring "Stop Gun Violence NOW" stickers for GVP attendees and we also recommend wearing a green ribbbon and/or a cutout heart to honor all the victims of gun violence. Please feel free to leave your heart blank, decorate it with a poem, message, or quote, or write in the name of someone who has been affected by gun violence. Below are two photos to use as an example: one is of hearts made for each of the children who died in Sandy Hook and another is of GVP supporters wearing their hearts. THANK YOU! Nicola, Project Director of Ceasefire NJ Mine came with a couple of images: one of hearts with the names of the kids on them. (If I were a parent, I'd sue them.) And another with 7 of the absolutely ugliest women I have ever seen, surrounding Dianne Feinstein (with obligatory kid in lap.) Very unprofessional to reply with a bunch of other emails. I hope this doesn't mean I'm going to be getting Ceasefire spam for life.

For me, the "least favorite" is a tie between this one and the every 5 year reapplication. The others wouldn't really affect me (which isn't to say I won't fight them.) The home inspection is just laughable. I almost hope they pass it, so we can watch them get spanked in court. Every five year will lead to an endless nightmare of reapplications. I don't think it will pass, because both local and state PD won't let it. I'm most worried about FTF. It doesn't cost them anything and is just a cheap and useless victory against us. The sun will continue to rise, regardless... If FTF passes, I'm proposing setting up a deal with a PA dealer across the river, where we do quarterly massive buys, rent out a cheap ballroom, and turn it into a party. I'm sure we can negotiate a good deal. No matter what, we've scored a victory in showing them that no matter what they win, it will no longer be "cheap." It will suck up hundreds of hours of their time, lead to embarrassing revelations, and, I fervently hope to be able to show, will actually cost them jobs. This may be enough to at least stem the tide of vitriol headed our way.

Respect2A, Can you elaborate on how any of this helps him at either the local or national level? He's not a stupid man and will do what's best for him.

I agree, grandfather is good. At a federal level, they can require that every post-ban magazine be stamped, "LE only." Obviously can't be done at a state level. Grandfathers are born every day.

Oh, I beg to differ. I suspect they will have several expensive buses ready to go, just waiting for the 100s of registrants to show up and pay their $15. I still want to hire the big bootie freak, but I think that's best reserved for the next committee meeting. I'm thinking, dress her in lycra bottoms and a tight molon labe t shirt? Anyone know any "modeling" agencies? I can't imagine this will cost more than $200.

I completely disagree with your interpretation. I think his high approval rating is good for us. He has political capital to burn in NJ. He can now focus on the national level, where passing any of these laws is going to hurt him. I agree he'll pass some, veto others. Unfortunately, I think he'll pass 10 round. If it's even considered at the national level, it's not taboo. I think once NYSP weighs in on the bureaucratic nightmare of every 5 year FID reapplication, he'll veto. At least that's what my local PD FID handler said. I hope, hope, hope, he vetoes the face to face ammo, but I think he'll pass. For the uninformed, the image of a freak sitting in his underwear, going on Amazon and ordering 6000 death bullets to his door is just too much to bear. Unfortunately, all our arguments require some thought to understand and cannot be made in 3 seconds or less.

Here's what I'm sending to Assemblywoman Oliver and my local reps. I'm sending it under the subject line, "knocked the fck out." Please send on to your local assemblymen. We need to let them know they fck'ed with the wrong crowd. One or two lost jobs will send that message loud and clear. Dear Ms. Oliver and colleagues, I would like to comment on the composition of your Law & Public Safety committee. Frankly, it's a disgrace. Between the revelations of Mr. Mainor's latest indiscretions and the litany of Mr. Cryan's past associations with known felons and terrorists, it's becoming an embarrassment. There is simply no room on the committee on LAW & PUBLIC SAFETY for a police officer who “likes” footage of assault and battery or for donors to foreign terrorist organizations. Given the controversial nature of the bills being considered, public scrutiny of this committee will only increase, and absent immediate change, the judgment of the Assembly leadership will be called into question. This is a crucial opportunity for you to do some real good. Please do not let a tainted committee become an unnecessary obstacle to the legislative process. I urge you to advocate for a more credible committee.

I didn't notice if this poll was up yesterday. It asks if you think less of Mainor. 30% don't. Looks like he's in the perfect district for a man like himself. http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/2013/02/jersey_city_assemblyman_defend.html

He should have no problems. Joe Cryan and his brother had mutual restraining orders on each other, and that didn't stop Joe from getting a plum undersheriff job.

It's done. See you all on the bus!

OK, I'd better reserve my seat, to be sure there are enough buses hired in case I might show up.

My prediction is you'll hear crickets chirping on those buses, but I won't be complacent. They've conveniently listed the bus departure times, so people can get there early to sign up to speak. Would t it be a bother if they all show up and find that the speaking slots are filled, and there's no room in the inn?

What does it mean that "The Assembly leadership has asked for greater turnout...?" So now, they don't just pass laws but manipulate public opinion? Here's a great quote: Many states hold rallys and receive nothing from their legislators in return. Ours have shown tremendous courage and strength in acting swiftly and strongly on our behalf, and we must support them by being in the Statehouse on Thursday for this vote. It is so important that we show our elected officials that we will support them for supporting us! "Tremendous courage and strength!" Indeed What is the mechanism by which people are allowed to speak? How many speakers?

Just another sign that the world's been turned upside down. http://seattletimes....tneat17xml.html Some choice quotes... "I spoke to two of the sponsors. One, Sen. Adam Kline, D-Seattle, a lawyer who typically is hyper-attuned to civil-liberties issues, said he did not know the bill authorized police searches because he had not read it closely before signing on. “I made a mistake,” Kline said. “I frankly should have vetted this more closely.”" WA wa "He said he came to realize that an assault-weapons ban has little chance of passing this year anyway. So he put in this bill more as “a general statement, as a guiding light of where we need to go.” Without sweating all the details."